The truth is still out there....

[ELSpeedo]

What happened to former decorated WWII vet Captain Thomas Mantell on on Jan. 7, 1948? The first KIA of a long running secret war?

Why A UFO?
1. A weather baloon is not world famous for high g turns and rapid accelleration with no reguard for gravity.
Weather baloons have pretty non existent flight control characterists to worry any ATC crew about
a unknown bogey. Scrambling planes 'in reality' not excercise is very serious and done once in a blue moon
in peacetime. So they must have been vectored to something that had the ATC and the USAF spooked.
2. Why scramble four F-51 Mustangs to shoot down one of your own expensive test weather baloons costing millions?
ATC is always notified of any aircraft whatsoever in the area in reguards to safety- civil and military.
3. How a normal person cannot tell the difference between a baloon and a flying object? A baloon for a P51
should not be hard to catch and im sure ATC would have discounted a weather baloon to scamble planes
unessesarily causing panic to civillians. Big baloons are easily picked up by radar and the radar operators
always vectors speeds and bearings/altitude and you could easily tell if a object is travelling a 5-10 knots and not
Mach 5. Any sensible pilot like the highly trained vet Mantell would know his operating limits and would not climb
past them. The Airforce has not trained its pilots in basic target recognition?- thats one of the first things they
teach you.
4. Why the USAF consistently change the story reguarding how he died, where and how.
5. Pilots are trained to recognise altitude sickness (lack of oxygen) of all people- fighter pilots
6. Why the need for P-51 pilots to travel so quick fast/high/low if its only chasing a harmless weather baloon?
7. For public safety and confidence in the military- it always controls the skies- and when they don't...



http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclo...M/Mantell.html
http://ufos.about.com/od/bestufocasefiles/p/mantell.htm
http://www.subversiveelement.com/ufoMantell.html
http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/mantelldir.htm
http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/mantell8.htm
http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/html/mantell.html

http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/mantell5.htm

http://ufologie.net/htm/mantell48.htm
A detailed investigation

http://ufologie.net/htm/air100-203-79.htm
A declassified research document obtained under US FOI?

[ELSpeedo]

http://www.phils.com.au/1901-2012.htm
one vision of the future by a author.

http://www.lochness.co.uk/livecam/index.html
I wreckon he'd make a great guard dog.

Way Out there warning (I will now refer as WOD) with conspiracies galore.

[ELSpeedo]

Cloak and Dagger- The Computer War has already begun?


http://www.spy.org.uk/freegary/2005/...tack.html#more

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
ECEHELON a old pal of mine. What a beautiful piece of machinery.

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm
FAS viewpoint on ECHELON.

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.jpg
ECHELON and you... A bit German so get someone or something to do the translation.

http://www.pmc.gov.au/publications/i...ter7/4_dsd.htm
Our little contribution.

http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0105.html
What Microsoft does not want you to hear.

http://www.amrel.com/federal_militar...why_amrel.html
Its big business too. One of the last fields where you can build your
computer from 'scatch'. From how many silcon layers do you want
to the micron level required for a particular custom designed IC
You'd have on hell of a Pentium IV...

http://www.echelonwatch.org/
a watch on the watchgdog or is it internal affairs?

http://www.computer-museum.ru/english/milhist.htm
Russian overview of their developed technology. Excellent
programming mob !!!

Quote-
An example of the technology can be the first successful unmanned flight of the Russian space shuttle Buran, whose programs were debugged and pre-tested on a special test bed.

http://www.computerhistory.org/brochures/search.php#
Hardcore Computing

[ELSpeedo]

Not just Muslim fundamentalists who are a threat to National Security?

obviously the western governments of the world forgot Tim McVeigh a few years
back...

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspi...s-underground/

[ELSpeedo]

What was the ORION Project?
Is that where Ford borrowed the name from?-lol

Using H-Bombs to blast your way through the universe?
Its no different to the masssive explosive power of modern big rockets such as the Saturn V but on a much bigger size such rockets would have to be built in space more cost effective and we could develop huge spacecraft there! cost would only be the limiting factors as old Werner Von Braum thought.... If only NASA had the chance the civillian spinoffs would be huge just like the last time mankind put their brains to something and landed man on the moon we can now go way past Mars...
With that Hydrogen powered GT V8 in the garage
Petrolium is so 20th century!

Far fetched or not hyrdrogen has always been known
as a very powerful energy source and can be harnessed
more so than most other atoms out there...

Arthur C Clarke was such a visionary....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project..._propulsion%29
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/nuclearspace-03h.html
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/nuclearspace-03d.html

Will this send Man to Mars and well beyond
could this could lead us to warp factors?
turn right at Zeta Reticuli- lol

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclo...OrionProj.html


or did they suceed????

who knows then we will hear Kraken say 'I told you so'- lol

[Wizards Sleeve]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92753501&hl=en

scary stuff, some interesting views in there

[ELSpeedo]

Thats quite a good review of the incident Wizards and I like its freelance impartiality and lack of links to major media congromerates who seemed only interested in pushing 9/11 for the horrible act itself and did not take a honest look at the administrations grave blunders and perhaps a hidden entity responsible for peddling such chaos in the first place.

I will not mention the Republicans parties sick use of the 911 tragedy to
forward their presedential campaign by cashing in on disaster...

Children overboard-lol- Hey we've done it too. Misery loves company.

For example the last episode of the Lone Gunman on TV... Even though Chris Carter is a CIA mole you have to give credit when its due - lol

The CIA is not innocent in starting major conflicts on false pretenses-

Bay of Pigs Fiasco- poor JFK he knew what happens when you mess
with them.

The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident - a single 'event' that laid the groundwork
for the long and bloody Vietnam War-

Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq- forget N.Korea, Iraq is the biggest bogeyman in the world- lol

http://www.aeufederal.org.au/Media/S...econf2003.html
Do these boots fit Mum? Arrrgghh- conscription the word of horror
to the Australian public and those who remember past times...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...608270446.html
Funny this opinion comming from a media baron...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident
Wikpedia on the Tonkin incident

http://www.zip.com.au/~cpa/garchve5/1079terr.html

http://www.acaat.org/Iraq1.html
War in Iraq opinions

http://www.acaat.org/feb03.pdf
and more thoughts on Iraq

http://www.zip.com.au/~cpa/garchve5/1077phil.html
Strange Days in the Phillippines- the person is rather heated under the collar but stil interesting
indeed.

I stil find it hard to link 9/11 to Iraq considering most of the proported hijakkers were Arabian (especially Saudi) in origin. Though no tough stand on Saudi Arabia the Wahabbis ( I think that how you spell it) extremist who spread their hate and myopic view across the Muslim heartland...

[ELSpeedo]

Another WOD warning!

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~skyaxe/mindcontrol1.htm
Quote-
Experienced hypnotist Dick Sutphen says "In the entire history of man, no one has ever been brainwashed and realized, or believed, that he had been brainwashed. Those who have been brainwashed will usually passionately defend their manipulators, claiming they have simply been "shown the light" . . . or have been transformed in miraculous ways." [The Battle for your Mind, Persuasion & Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public Today, Dick Sutphen]


http://www.accessibility.com.au/news...mind_mouse.htm


Hmm the human brain is like a piece of putty in fact it even looks
like one!

or is it the beginnings of the new mark of the *?

This article I found discusses the nature of beliefs, thinking & the mind, and how mind control can be applied by outside agencies, and more importantly, by oneself. Maybe some thoughts relating to something... or maybe a load of hokum. AAaaah the wonders that never cease of peoples imaginations or reality
for that matter.

BELIEFS Denial of external mind control, ("oh golly, just more of that conspiracy theory crap") is also denial of much (if not all) of what believe about our world and ourselves. Since we came into this world believing almost nothing, it is reasonable to suppose that we learnt our beliefs from others.

Some of the beliefs we might have been taught are that:
* It is natural to fear
* We are wanting in some way
* Punishment benefits someone
* We are unloved
* It is beneficial to cope with stress
* We're born of "original sin" or even "born bad"
* Pain should be managed
* We are unsupported
* You cannot follow your heart
* Pharmaceutical companies have your interests at heart (like banks do...)
* An otherwise perfectly satisfied carpet can express a "need" to be cleaned

Being well aware of what feels good, and what feels bad, it is interesting to note that a lot of what we think about is flavoured by what we believe, and it doesn't feel good.

SO WHO IS IN CONTROL? If free will is the freedom to think and feel what we will, why on earth would we choose to think or feel ... bad ? Another interesting question is ... if we are not being responsible for, or exercising control over, our own minds, who is ? Of course you may opt to believe that it's all just sort of accidental, or it's part of "human nature", to think & do what we do. Then I'd ask "who taught you that?" To take this further we would do well to have a workable model to describe thinking and the mind.

AND WHAT IS THE "MIND" Let's describe the mind as an energy field that flows through every cellular and sub-cellular structure in our body (this is in accord with current quantum-related theories). Roger Penrosei suggests this model to explain mathematical incongruities with "thinking in the brain" theories.

SO THOUGHTS & FEELINGS ARE? If the mind is an energy field then thoughts and feelings are fluctuations and perturbations in that energy field and instantly flow through and about our physical body and every structure within that body. (Deepak Chopra's "... the body is in the mind") THE TUNEABLE BODY A musical metaphor allows further consideration, then, of our thoughts and feelings being in harmony or disharmony within the context of our mind. They are the method by which we tune our mind ... and since we allowed the body to be in the mind, our thoughts and feelings can also be said to tune our body.

What are we tuning to ? Why, feeling better, of course, to the best of our ability, dependant upon what we believe! WHAT ABOUT EMOTIONS ? Emotions provide "amplitude modulation" to the waves of thought and feeling. The stronger the emotion, the more "power" does the thought or feeling have to effect (for better or worse) the tuning, and thus the harmony, or wellbeing of the body-mind.

WHERE DO MEMORIES FIT IN? Memories, within this energetic model, are stored in the structures of our physical body. They allow a playback mechanism such that a full body response is available.

This gives a whole new slant on aches, pains & illnesses, which now can be described as the physical manifestations of energetic conditions arising within the mind. Loss of heart (occasioning heart conditions), or feeling unsupported (leading to leg and foot conditions), or feeling overburdened and stressed (giving us shoulder and neck aches) are examples of this viewpoint, as is the efficacy of massage in releasing stored body memories. Have you ever met anyone who has "worked their guts out", who doesn't have bowel conditions ? THE WORDS WE USE The simplest way of discussing this is to state that whatever you state as truth, is! Whatever follows the personal pronoun "I" in a sentence, is! Your choice! BE CHOOSY with your words! And so it goes. Whatever you think and feel about your experiences can be described as beneficial or not beneficial to the mind & body. That's why we are encouraged "to see through" the control mechanisms that have limited us. Without knowing that such mechanisms are in place, or that such control is possible, we allow outside manipulation to continue, and even aid and assist it's use against our wellbeing.

Practice paying attention to what you prefer.

It just depends on what you think;
about who you are & what you're doing.
So if what you're thinking isn't perfect.
Think again!! That's the secret!
You have free will -
to think & feel what you will.
Go for the best.
Do it NOW.

The second part of this article details some of the tools & tactics used by certain agencies in order that large or small numbers of us might feel and think in particular ways. Remember, the full power of your mind resides with you, as long as YOU CHOOSE CAREFULLY how and what to think, say and do!

PART 2 (by Nick Armstrong)

Dr. Nick Begich has recently co-authored a new book, "Earth Rising, the Revolution, Towards a Thousand Years of Peace". This is a follow up from his "Angels Don't Play this HAARP" release a few years ago.

In his new book he details, very thoroughly, all the documented evidence that shows that mass mind control is fully operational in many parts of this planet. His research shows that mobile or cellular phone towers are being used to transmit specific mind control frequencies as well as the usual mobile phone communications. In New York City, there are, apparently, phone towers on almost every corner. Each is capable of transmitting over 10,000 watts, far in excess of that needed for phone communications.

The mind control may be quite subtle. It might be designed to make you vote a certain way, during election time. It might be tuned to cause anxiety and fear in people or disruptive behaviour without you realising it. In other words, our emotions. Interestingly, the human mind is so powerful, that we can reject this form of control over our individual free will if we are aware and choose to do so.

Begich also details the MKULTRA (CIA) mind control projects, weapons of political control, non-lethal weapons and other technologies. The Echelon project could be called a weapon of political control. It is an electronic eavesdropping system that can monitor/listen to all phone calls, faxes, emails etc. looking for key words. As a CIA chief said recently in a radio interview "we have the ability to monitor any and all conversations". Begich recently pointed out how a gross invasion of privacy might occur using roving wire taps. An agency might say "we know that certain criminal activity is happening in this neighbourhood, therefore we are looking for key phrases and we are going to monitor the whole neighbourhood for conversations until we can key into the people who are probably committing those crimes". How much freedom do we erase for security?

In 1980 NASA produced a technical document that has only recently been released. "A decoy and deception concept presently being considered is to remotely create the perception of noise in the heads of personnel by exposing them to low power, pulsed microwaves. When people are illuminated with properly modulated low power microwaves the sensation is reported as a buzzing, clicking, or hissing which seems to originate (regardless of the person's position in the field) within or just behind the head. The phenomena occurs at average power densities as low as microwatts per square centimetre with carrier frequencies from 0.4 to 3.0 GHz. By proper choice of pulse characteristics, intelligible speech may be created. Before this technique may be extended and used for military applications, an understanding of the basic principles must be developed. Such an understanding is not only required to optimise the use of the concept for camouflage, decoy and deception operations but is required to properly assess safety factors of such microwave exposure." Imagine the developments in the last 20 years!

In "Earth Rising", Begich details over 600 source documents to support his mountain of evidence. Because most of this new technology being used by agencies such as the CIA, NSA, NASA "is out of control", he says "it is time for the debate to begin" on who and what technologies should be allowable in our communities. He also points out that from the technology developed from the invention of the wheel to today will be doubled in the next nine months! This will make it almost impossible for people to keep up. This means a few people with access to the technology will be able to control billions of people through the aquision of information or direct control.

These controllers could create a crisis, through making people irritable at first, then driving them to violence or anarchy. They could then offer their solution to the crisis by bringing in new controls which they had planned all along.

Electromagnetic weapons systems such as has been described are increasing in number dramatically, world wide. Some of these systems such as HAARP (and Super DARN?) can manipulate the environment including weather in very specific geographical areas anywhere around the globe. Because energy is behind all reality and material things, these electromagnetic systems can manipulate energies to cause effects such as weather, earthquakes, human illness.

It's quite possible that drastic events such as the Columbine School shooting (USA) and Port Arthur (Tasmania) where influenced by these mind control weapons. The ultimate agenda being to disarm a country to reduce resistance to incoming New World Order controls.

ed- who's to say that did not happen in Canada, again?
and AGAIN in Colorado?


Dr. Begich mentions that the convergence of information technology, biotechnology and nanotechnology (miniaturisation) means we are about to see a quantum leap in technology overall.

Begich says the equation is "upside down". That is, with this new technology, the average person is becoming more and more transparent, while governments become less and less transparent. That is fundamentally wrong within a democracy...

[ELSpeedo]

http://users.netconnect.com.au/~ianmac/eureka.html

http://www.abc.net.au/ballarat/eureka150/

http://eureka.imagineering.com.au/st...son_trials.htm

Fourtunately we did not have to endure civil wars like other countries have...
The first and only time officially that the government fired on its own people
and workers took up arms against a unjust law and tax...More than 16
Nationalities were involved it was the biggest and most argued moments
in Australian history. It has made once historian friends mortal enermies!
It is the one that you should never discuss at the barbie with mates...

Lets hope there are no future laws that a government brings in that
will bring this problem back ever again.

Like the American Confederate flag the Flag of Eureka encourages
various views thoughts and intent. Funny how a pack of rebels founded
part of natural ethos that is Australia and who we are now.
However the question could also be thrown a curveball- 'who's to say
this won't happen again' or 'learn this lesson to prevent this from happening again'.

Every problem encounted by humanity gives lessons and hindsight.
If we only capitalised on these lessons instead of ignoring them.

WOD Warning-

Being a Student of Politics here are a few views- Politics is a dirty word.
(from left and right to looney left and right)

http://evatt.labor.net.au/publications/books/8.html
Its bent to the Labour view
http://www.cultureandrecreation.gov....urekastockade/
now the Liberal view
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~natinfo/index.html
Nationalist View (why don't they just call themselves NASDAP )
http://agitprop.org.au/lefthistory/1..._1854_1954.php
Far Left Neo-Socialist/Communist View
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~eureka/power.htm
A individuals view on things. A revolutionary perhaps or just
very proud of his country? Or a White Australian Republic.... )
http://www.zip.com.au/~cpa/garchve2/998may.html
Communist View
http://www.reasoninrevolt.net.au/biogs/E000001b.htm
Australian Radicalism- socialist links

[ELSpeedo]

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan.../D8KEP9100.htm

Skunkworks! You've done it again!

Now these weapons have been the dream and fascination of many scientists
engineers and enthusaists for many years now. Since Flash Gordon there
were drawings and designs of ficticious weapons of ray guns and even bigger
ray guns of Malvin the Martian. Obviously getting ideas on how the sun works
and nuclear bombs which share the same energy principles to get plasma
energy by demmand. Such weapons could be used into tritium which would not
only flatten a target but practically melt everything to a Mt St Helens style
destruction.


Now if I could only find some information on their anti-matter weapons
as laser weapons are old hat. Thats late 70's technology!

[ELSpeedo]

What happens when you cross a U2 with hydrogen ramjets?


A very fast and high flying plane. Im sure they would have
perfected the hydrogen injection technology of the Me-163 by then.

Developed in the 1950's by Lockheed Martin, the Suntan, officially designated as CL-400, was designed to replace the U-2. The huge, but light aircraft was intended to fly at Mach 2.5, powered by 2 Pratt & Whitney hydrogen burning Air-Turbo-Ramjet (ATR) engines. A facility in Florida was built just to test these engines. However, these engines proved to be the cause of its failure. The project was cancelled, because of the immense cost of the fuel, with only four prototypes made.

After cancellation in 1958, it was renamed to "Gusto" and moved to the CIA. In September 1959, Lockheed was again given the chance to build it. The project was then renamed to "Oxcart" and the Suntan became the SR-71 Blackbird.

It is rumored that the information gained during the development of the Suntan
(mainly the engines) has been incorporated into the Aurora.

By the way, nothing was heard about the Suntan for over 20 years.

Characteristics

* TOGW: 69,955 lbs
* Zero FW: 48,515 lbs
* Fuel load: 21,440 lbs
* Payload: 1,500 lbs
* Crew: 2
* Wing area: 2,4000 Sq. ft
* Aspect ratio: 2.5
* 304-2 engines: 2

http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/suntan.shtml

ed- They did perfect the hydrogen engines but back in the 60's hydrogen
tech was bloody expensive even for black ops equipment which had
a far more higher budget than the military can. R&D is a key for development
of a country into a superpower and keeping it there.

The JP-7 is a variation of the fuel developed by the oxcart but with
a mixture. The Jp-7 fuel mix from all the declassified stuff I think does
not tell the whole story. Did they get hydrogen peroxide safe? That
is a far more easier fuel than pure hydrogen which required advanced
processes from electrical or airborne extraction. Though with electrical
extraction being allot cheaper now- perhaps they did perfect the
technology after all. The Auroura is a testament for that. Petrolium is
only a low altitude fuel and it looses effeciency raidly after 50,000ft.
Variously mixtures help but do not help much this limitation >70,000ft.

Apart from air pollution. Also the military has pioneered clean higher burning
fuels to avoid telltale IR signitures that petrol birds leave in the sky. You
may as well paint your flightpath these days with advances in the technology.
Also your bird is limited in height and cannot take advanatge of better
economy at much higher altitudes. Our 747's of the Future should be
cruising at Mach 6 at 180,000ft and have room for over 3,000 Passengers
non stop without refuelling. Though the old slow bat arse 800kmph overseas
flights are still the norm.

[ELSpeedo]

http://www.red-ice.net/specialreport...ultradocs.html
Heres some proported declassified Mk-Ultra documents.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...censorship.htm
Loose Change and ilk in trouble with Google?

Is Big Brother worried?

Im on a roll today.

[ELSpeedo]

Another WOD warning.
http://www.maar.us/alien_agenda.html
Dark Skies indeed.

Quote-
There is a dark agenda at work whether we wish to face it or not. Whether we believe in benevolence or malevolence. There's no logic in covert and clandestine activity, unless it carries a sinister connotation to it.

Many abductees who are experiencing malevolence are very spiritually enlightened or religiously orientated with a firm foundation in their belief about God and Jesus Christ, Buddha, Mohammed, Tao or what ever the belief system is. If it were simply benevolent visitors, they'd merely pick out our most spiritually enlightened, form every religion including credible world leaders from each country, in each language and start to manifest themselves, discuss their ability to help out humankind recover the ills of the planet. This would be after they made their benevolence known to such scholars. In turn our world leaders would very diplomatically introduce them to us and they’d exhibit what they claim they are and start fixing things. I do not know one person who's been malevolently abducted that isn't open to a benevolent experience if that were the case. A benevolent society doesn't harm its universal brethren -- period. Nor do they communicate via channeling through groups which then manifest into cults or alien worshiping.

As it stands now all the needle marks, bruises, the human psyches of the abductee who anguishes over the experience, those who suffer from post traumatic stress disorder beg to differ. Countless relationships have been destroyed, many lives have been forever changed by the aggressive act malevolence will never add up to benevolence. The proof is in the pudding, until otherwise proven.

hear no evil ,speak no evil... see no...

Then again if I just landed on the White House lawn how would they greet me?

Hard to say. GWB might think its the apocalypse or something.

[ELSpeedo]

http://www.k3pgp.org/seti/setipress.htm
A long forgotten press release back in 1998

The proof that it was false, just yet another error in instruments, yet again
damn! Or was it not a error? A fatal press misjudgement instead.
Or a test to see how the public would react just like in 1947.

http://www.k3pgp.org/seti/oct29.htm
http://www.k3pgp.org/seti/nov03.htm

http://www.k3pgp.org/seti/oct29b.htm
http://www.k3pgp.org/seti/verify.htm
http://www.k3pgp.org/seti/eqpegasi.htm
Enthusiasts keeping the truth alive

Its awful hard tuning In to distant radio stations let alone galactic ones.
If you have the right tuning equipment and on the right band however...

[ELSpeedo]

'The nations of the world must unite for the next war
will be a interplanetary war. The nations of earth must
someday make a common front against attacks
by people from other planets.'

Gen. Douglas MacArthur
October 8 1955
Address to US War College before his retirement

Forget the war against terrorism, this is much,much much bigger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB8w2YiXJBc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Mni...elated&search=
Dial Up Warning!!! Have a donut,make yourself a feed, wash the car, polish it then
it should be downloaded by then.

(My apologies - YouTube Killed off both video's for a 'terms of use violation'. It was a preview not
the full thing- so there is no copyright infringements here except for the CIA-j/k
ed- Don't hide behind lies! Google has been caught out as well- manipulating things.)
ed2- what do you know Google has bought out YouTube. More media stifling!

http://www.theufomovie.com/home.html
The original website. The trailers and interview snippets are interesting.

ed- Personally I find putting my information for free informs others more
about the cover-up than asking money for your investigations...

ed- Then again its downlinked from the USA and
'anything' can happen'- well it did.

Looks like the USAF was very open to UFO investigations back in the Project Blue Book in the 1950's.

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/
Treasure trove of greys, goblins and things that electrocute the back of your neck at 3am- lol

http://www.theozfiles.com/ufos_subrosa2.html
UFO's taking a interest in our country.

[ELSpeedo]

http://www.aeronautics.ru/ekipgal.htm
A Russian Flying Saucer?

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/plasma/index.htm
Star Trek style cloaking... Is Stealth technology obsolete?

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/gr...gravitsapa.htm
Anti-Gravity one of my favorite subjects. Treasure trove of links.


http://www.aeronautics.ru/index.htm
Good review of aeronautics from a different perspective.

The quasi 'UFO design' is Extremely primitive but gives the idea
you no longer need wings to fly a aircraft. I was thinking that using
electromagnetics to generate massive amounts of kinetic energy
like Telsa theories instead- like the Pavtek document suggests.
Novel idea all the same. I suppose thats what the US Military
is working this toward a reality with all the investment the
Russians simply do not have at present away.

Its not like the idea of flying saucers is new either....

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/ufonazi.html

[ELSpeedo]

http://www.theage.com.au/news/techno...641255911.html

DRM- the beginning of the end?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1833795,00.html
Loverly little germs.

http://www.livinginthelightms.com/sevenclansofmars
The real Chariots of the Gods? Our Martian ancestry?
Probably explains why humans are so warlike!

http://www.geocities.com/changethewo...etheworld1.htm
A message from another civilisation? I'll leave it up to you...




The Disclosure Project.

From CIA to fighter pilots to aeronautical engineers to Special Operations and expert witnesses even they know
there is more than meets the eye.

http://www.disclosureproject.org/
http://www.topsecrettestimony.com/npcc_full.wmv
Another Interesting Video with testimony from people of considerable wealth of knowledge- 70Mb
US National Press Club Conference on May 9 2001.

[ELSpeedo]

Project Winterhaven.
-USAF UFO'S?

not the craft but it does give some ideas...

http://www.americanantigravity.com/a...ven/Page1.html
http://www.disclosureproject.org/Out...LoderPaper.htm
http://home.columbus.rr.com/threeemu...silverbug.html
http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Projec...lver%20Bug.htm

http://www.soteria.com/stress/gravsit.htm
The principles of designing your own anti-gravity device.

http://www.ausairpower.net/Profile-F-15A-D.html
The inheritor of some of these principles. If you put 2 and 2 together...
If the P-51 had a primitive ramjet what high tech principles did the
F-15 inherit? It must have allot more advantages that what is published
to achieve a 101-0 (since increased) kill ratio?
http://www.edwards.af.mil/archive/20...f15_anniv.html

Some would say this aircraft is used as a UFO killer.
funny they did mention it in the X-Files.
'you don't see a F-15 you hear it'


A Isreali F-15 slammed into a A-4 Skyhawk and landed without a wing.
As you would imagine the Skyhawk was toast he ejected safely.
Try that in a F-18 or any other plane for that matter...
Check it out- Makes McDonnell Douglas a very proud old airplane builder.
http://www.uss-bennington.org/phz-nowing-f15.html
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7...ingwing1li.jpg
http://www.f-16.net/varia_article8.html

'The IAF (Israeli Air Force) contacted McDonnell Douglas and asked for information about possibility to land an F-15 with one wing. MD replied that this is aerodynamically impossible, as confirmed by computer simulations... Then they received the photo.... After two months the same F-15 got a new wing and returned to action'.
'McDonnell Douglas attributes the saving of this aircraft to the amount of lift generated by the engine intake/body and "a hell of a good pilot". '

I think it was allot more than that...

More than just any fighter plane- its a F-15.

Check This One oUt
http://www.defencetalk.com/military_...g_20061119.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TjuxDSxgDw&NR
What a toy she is.... It always whats inside that counts....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwOD4...elated&search= Sticking your nose near one of these is a bit silly. I saw one start a
small grassfire once- lol



Personally I think if you put the F-22 engines, avionics and next gen radar
and plasma stealth technology into a F-15 a F-22 would be toast.
I wonder if anybody has thought along my lines...

Yes we have come along way in the last 50 odd years.

[ELSpeedo]

Currently the most circulated Australian conspiracy(paper based) theory going around. This one is WOD. But many things only appear after all unless your have a government minister appoving of it. The Greenhouse Effect is now official. Oil is still a unstable resource, Alternative energy systems are supposedly out of reach except for nuclear energy(Australia under Menzies persued the A-Bomb). We had tests here so why not deploy them. The Flash will sure look pretty on the horzion.

The real author is unknown. It was a dumped letter found in a rubbish bin somewhere... Some things are bits and pieces of aussie history mixed in. Turn on your favorite music and relax. It must'nt be too bad aigh?

X-Files music hmm sounds woosy- this needs some Megadeth- Hanger18

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbc..._australia.htm

[ELSpeedo]

kill the post if necesary. wrong place

http://www.pbs.org/tesla/
Extracting pure energy from the atmosphere....perhaps.

http://www.neuronet.pitt.edu/~bogdan/tesla/

Possibly one of the greatest inventors in history and still a heretic- Mr Nicola Telsa (1856-1943)


A extract from the CBS website-
Dr. Dennis Papadopoulos
Professor of Physics, University of Maryland
Senior Science Advisor, H.A.A.R.P
(High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program)

'Tesla was a genius because way before anybody knew or even understood the earth and what we call today the ionosphere, which is a layer of ionized particles about 80 kilometers above the earth, he conceived it, and he tried to use it to produce a variety of new concepts.

Tesla is extremely underrated. I mean, there are a lot of people that don't know Tesla today. And that includes physicists, I would say. Although the Tesla unit is extensively used, and the Tesla coil which is one of his most ingenious inventions, it's also extensively used.

Wireless Transmission

We have wireless transmission of energy all the time. The people that are listening to your TV station are listening to wireless transmission of power. The issue is, how much power can you transmit through empty space. And how can you channel it, because... if you think of a lake and you drop a pebble, what you are going to see is that this disturbance you make dies as you go around because it moves in two dimensions. If you make it into a channel, then it lasts longer and longer. So the wireless transmission of energy is to try and find the channel, so that the energy doesn't spread all over the place, but it goes in a particular direction. Tesla understood, before knowing — before satellites and the other discoveries — realized that there was a conductor above the earth because the sun creates a set of ionized particles so we have the ground which is a conductor, and above that we have another conductor at about 80 kilometers and if you send radio waves of low frequency they get combined in that channel and they can propogate, and this is called the earth ionospheric wave guide. Without any knowledge he visualized that. And he said, since I have this wave guide, I can repeat what I am doing in the laboratory.
Ed- Telsa thought outside the sqaure and until you think outside it you will not suceed. Einstein did this to create the theory of relativity- Telsa was bordering on the unified field theory.

His major defect was that he was dreaming but he was doing very few calculations on paper. Because on paper he could have realized that because the dimensions of the wave guide, are so enormous, you can transmit power, but not very much power. You can transfer power to hear the radio, or for television, or for a telephone. But once you want to start turning on lights in which you really need high currents, the power gets diluted because the space is very large. It's a standard defect of dreamers, geniuses, not like Einstein, the other type of geniuses, the inventors, who visualize things, but have difficulty putting numbers [on paper]. And actually, I think that was his downfall.
ED- You need to filter energy as it is of various types and wavelengths/freqences. Telsa dispised the scientific establishment for its myopia just like Einstein faced as well. A good cook knows a reciepe off by heart and he probably had a photographic memory and it may have been deliberate so his ideas did not fall into the wrong hands. The ideas could already have but.After all the Manhattan Project went from a dream to reality in less than 6 years.

Propogating Current

There are two ways of propogating. One is by bouncing between the earth and the ionosphere, which means that you create a current on the earth, and a current in the ionosphere, and that's what carries it. So you get two charges positive and negative and they move along.

The second one is, you forget the ionosphere, and the current is carried only by the earth... Both modes of propagation have been very fine, we know that. The problem with both modes in terms of really sending a lot of energy, is they attenuate a lot. When you have current, if the earth and the ionosphere were superconductors, wonderful, we'd be able to do it. But they are poor conductors. So what happens is a lot of energy goes into heating the ground or heating the ionosphere. So when I'm going to send energy from Long Island to Paris, I'm going to loose a lot.

(Tesla's) idea of propagation is perfectly valid... Tesla's intuition was absolutely unbelievable. Because we had problems really persuading people about this concept in the 70s... And Tesla, without knowledge of satellites or solar UV radiation, all those things, he could really visualize the correct mode of propagation. Stunning.

HAARP

HAARP is the latest ionospheric modification facility, ionospheric heater. It's nothing more than a radio station, which sends power at 10 megahertz — television, for example PBS, is at 100 megahertz. HAARP sends power at between 3 and 10 megahertz, and sends it up in the ionosphere. What happens is it operates like a microwave oven. As soon as it finds ionized particles, charged particles which start existing at 70 kilometers, this electric field shakes them up and down. When they shake up and down they collide with a lot of neutral particles and it makes them hotter. So, the region where you are focusing your energy... becomes hotter than the rest of the region. That changes the property of the medium.

There are three things I can think about Tesla when I'm talking about this particular project. The first ... we should think of Tesla every time we look at a microwave oven; again the radiation frequency of the microwave oven and the concept of the microwave oven was Tesla's.

The second thing is, it is a frequency transformer. Tesla, with the Tesla coil, changes one frequency to another frequency. What we are doing up there, we're taking at 5 megahertz a frequency which radiates in the ground and we transform it into 1 hertz, 5 hertz, 10 hertz, or whatever it is. So we have really a frequency transformer similar to what Tesla was thinking. Third, and most important, once we create the waves they propagate exactly the way Tesla conceived it through the earth ionosphere waveguide.

Changing the Weather

Tesla proposed that it might be possible to modify the weather, by using radio waves. I believe that this is impossible. I mean if I take really the most powerful facility, in the world, which is actually the Voice of America, and I look at the power that it sends, it's about one billionth of the power in a tornado. So it is the equivalent of trying to have a fly stop a tank. It's impossible, energetically, with radio waves. There is another reason: radio waves do not couple to the neutral atmosphere, they go straight through. So it's impossible in terms of energy, it's impossible in terms of physics.

It's pure nonsense that any radio facility even a million times stronger than HAARP would be able to change the weather.
Ed- Ok then why is the American govt spending billions on it? After all weather is linked to sublime electrical currents
otherwise where else would lightning come from? I can understand the defense department funds you so you canot bite the hand that feeds you even with the morality crisis you may face.

Inspiration

I have been inspired by Tesla. The man thought big, he had revolutionary ideas. He was a risk taker, he had high risk, high payoff ideas. You expect, if you're lucky, to have one percent of these ideas be true, then you've made a tremendous contribution. Tesla had much more than one percent of his ideas being true. I would be lucky if I had one percent of my ideas being utilized, even one hundredth of what Tesla has succeeded'.


If you can understand Telsa and the way he explains things is a key to taking his projects to fruition. Back then we had
a minor understanding soon his ideas may have a reality...
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/toc.html
http://www.eisenhowerinstitute.org/p...lease40-03.htm

[ELSpeedo]

WOD Warning
Classic style conspiracy site. Looks like that late 90's feel. I must be showing my age.
http://neverknwo.gnn.tv/blogs/7968/U...dress_to_Earth

http://www.illuminati-news.com/ufos-...-viewpoint.htm
Looks like the Slayer Song- Haunting the Chapel will have a whole new meaning.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/ufos-..._of_aliens.htm
United Nations- Perhaps Galactic United Nations would be more applicable.

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/draconians.html
Never liked those chaps very much- what a reptile!

http://www.bibleufo.com/
Did Jesus, Allah and Buddha encounter 'super beings' or where of a higher level in conciousness or both?

♦ The platform comes directly between the Hebrews and the pursuing Egyptian army. (Exodus 14:19)
♦ The platform harassed the Egyptian army. (Exodus 14:24)
♦ The "glory of the Lord appeared in the cloud" that leads the Hebrews. (Exodus 16:10)
♦ The lord ascended on Mount Sinai with great lights beaming into the night sky, shaking the mountain greatly and broadcasting very loud sounds with increasing volume. (Exodus 19:18 -20, 20:18)
♦ People were fearful of the vehicle. (Exodus 20:18)
♦ The platform/cloud descends and hovers. (Exodus 33:9, 34:5, Numbers 12:5)
♦ The platform/cloud ascends. (Exodus 40:36)
♦ God broadcasts his voice from the platform/cloud. (Exodus 33:9, 34:5, Psalms 99:7)
♦ The people follow the platform wherever it led them and was always with them. (Exodus 40:36-38, Numbers 9:17-18, 10:34, Nehemiah 9:19)
♦ The cloud provides shade and light. (Numbers 9:16)
♦ The platform/cloud hovers above the group for days, months and even up to a year. (Numbers 9: 22)
♦ The cloud takes off and lands. (Numbers 10:11-12)
♦ The vehicle protects the people. (Numbers 14:14)
♦ The platform/cloud scouts ahead for places that the Hebrews will rest. (Deuteronomy 1:33)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
Operation Paperclip- no ordinary paperclip might i add. Certainly rather sharp around the edges and murderous to boot.
http://helix.gatech.edu/Classes/ME41...liphistory.htm
More fun with crazy paperclips.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO..._paperclip.htm
Bio's on interesting paperclips
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/story41.html
A Paperclip overview. Does anybody smell odeSSa?
http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/vonbraun/paperclip.html
NASA's view on paperclips.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4443934.stm
Britains view on Paperclips.

http://library.thinkquest.org/3426/d...cts/index.html
Is Wormwood over? Or has wormwood just begun?

[ELSpeedo]

De Voidi Urdu
and many greetings to you.

Our list of advertures o' amerteurish spacefarer!
http://www.ufodigest.com/zeta.html

Our links with another world. I love computer technology exponentially
increasing and somehow getting power out of nowhere. Fighter planes
no longer needing wings anymore and the whole fuselarge in built around
the main airframe. Look at the F-22's Wings and how they
are almost eliptical. Till they are circular.

Kinetic energy generates heat. You'll need new materials and external
measures for reducing gravity as this limits your aircrafts performance
in your atmosphere. Anti-gravity research! Fascinating.
Keep the good work up chaps and try and not to blow yourselves up.

Do not dissapoint us now!!

We now can communicate with the human brain and perform motor functions independant of the host brain!
Facinating aigh? Funny how you folks cannot die.

'Look at the critics trying to destroy this fantastic true story. If I were the keeper of this information,
I wouldn't release it to anyone... except the general public, through the news media. There are some
true disbelievers in the UFO community who wouldn't believe the story if God himself told it'.

http://www.serpo.org/intro.asp
http://www.serpo.org/
http://www.serpo.org/release1.asp
http://www.serpo.org/Serpo_releases_with_commentary.pdf
http://www.serpo.org/consistencies.asp
Makes our greenhouse effect look ordinary on their planet!!

May the wall of secrecy FALL. It will be 60 years since Roswell in 2007,
so has the time finally come? Im growing tired of the coverup when some reversed engineered
tech is now so blatantly apparent and over the next few years will be more and more so.

Too many people are leaving from the military and contractors who know they are mucking
around with stuff some of it with no preceedent.USAF Space Command is going up now for real maybe soon
to a independant command giving more 'legit' money in the US Budget.

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked
up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity....
Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do."

Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, in a lecture shortly before he died

How I dreamed to work on their design team.
http://www.f22-raptor.com/government...atulations.jpg
Shorten Wars?

Were not that far away you know...or we could already be amoung you
or watching you or ...

http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports...i_star_sys.htm

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/new.../1998/43/text/
The chaps at hubble are a little less myopic than NASA is.

He adds: "It's impossible to imagine the thinking of a civilization which might have evolved a million of years ahead of humans.We could be about as uninteresting to them as an amoeba is to us. Actual proof will have to await advances in biology and astronomy."
ED- wait a minute in science class we experimented on amoeba you know. We are a little investigative like them arn't we?
Look at all the different subjects human scientists investigate we cannot probably even comprehend what they are up to
in the first place even to make such a judgement. According to some report a Grey the common knowledge due to reports
of the declassified MK-Ultra files was tested averaged 200+ IQ(well the perfect score). Well they did all the questions and got perfect scores and commented our our childish ways of determining intelligence. The fact that they Greys could also communicate telepathically made the scientists very fearful as well of them. We have receptors in our brain which control motor movement, our brain controls audio/visual spacial. Being in the room alone with one of these creatures
was described as being alone with yourself and all your torments and for others it was enlightening-they had their favorites
amoung humans.

They did not need any food as their bodies could absorb energy- vampire like from its subjects. This would explain why victims feel helpless in alien experimentation of human 'anobea' subjects and their contempt for us as well. Maybe the human race may go the way of the Aztec.

These creatures manifest such a quality alone with makes them more than physical with their minds power at their disposal. Little hamsters we are with our brain compared to what their minds can manifest...

Scary huh? Were woefully outclassed perhaps. Probably explains the fear amoung the NSA/CIA on the matter. Whatever
happened to those 3 star generals who paid a visit to them? They 'generally' came unglued I thought. The mind is a terrible
thing to waste.

'We would be alone in the universe: reduced to a novelty — or accident — of the cosmos.'
ED-O I better start going to church more often. The bible must then be real!
The Vatican will be most pleased. then again...

MJ-12 Staff Document
A FRAMEWORK:
30 July 1999
FACTS CONCERNING EXOBIOLOGICAL LIFE TO BE CONVEYED THROUGH "THE PUBLIC ACCLIMATION PROGRAM"

1) Intelligent life does exist on other planets and throughout the Universe.
2) Craft not of human design or manufacture are operating in and around the land, sea and air of Earth.
3) Intelligent beings other than Homo Sapiens Sapiens are conducting various missions on this planet. These beings have been coming here for tens of thousands of years.
4) Alien beings may have human-like bodies or non-human bodies (such as hybrid, insectoid, or reptilian). Intelligent beings can be physical, non-physical or inter-dimensional in nature.
5) The variety of life in the universe is diverse, like the life on our own planet is diverse.
6) Some alien beings have the ability through advanced technology or other means to move forward and backward at will through time and space.
7) The spiritual evolution of an alien life form may be ahead of, equal to or behind its level of technological development.
8) The social orientation, motives and agendas of these beings is very diverse. Some alien intelligences are more friendly to human beings than others.
9) In many cases, the "abduction phenomenon" is a real event. This activity is complex, coordinated and purposeful. It often occurs throughout many generations of a family.
10) Cross-breeding of humans with more than one alien species has occurred. Hybrid children and hybrid adults do exist. They have characteristics of both the human and alien races.
11) Although most alien contacts and sightings occurring on modern-day earth have been shrouded in secrecy and mystery, the veil is slowly being lifted by the activities of civilians and specially assigned government personnel. The Public Acclimation to the reality of alien life is proceeding in a way designed not to shock or disrupt society any more than necessary.
12) A great amount of "UFO" and alien information is now in the public domain. Countless books, videos and internet websites are devoted to these subjects. Thousands of pages of U.S. government documents on unusual sightings and encounters have been made available.

[ELSpeedo]

Wired Nazis
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...490095975.html
Hitler loved cocaine I heard probably explains his temper tantrums on stage.
Its not to say ampethamine is used in other armies as well is it? MK-ULTRA
are at it again. Drugs is sport- they are helpful in warfare as well.


Roger Ramjet popping pills- speed is everywhere- my o my.

A drug that is slowly destroying society.

[wookie34]

Dear sir spent several hours the other night going through the links on your posts the other night unbelievable if only half the stuff is true (which I think it is) what a world we live in What will future generations think of us I think big brother has almost won try and start a disscussion today on anything except petrol prices or interest rates and either their eyes glaze over or you get hit by a barrage of toe the line right wing drivel that they have just been force fed by the media machine


I AM NOT PARANOID THE WORLD IS OUT TO GET ME

[ELSpeedo]

Thanks for the interest. Im not parnoid I have no fear in uncovering whatever needs to be for better or for worse. Its better humanity be informed than relying on the same information sources to tell the same thing- all the time. I've lost many friends from my old career since and a few good folks have
stuck by me and my investigations. Some 'fear' for what they know others 'wise' to enlighten us all on whats going on lately. When the time comes
Im sure all will be revealed. We used to think the world was flat and we still think we are alone in the universe! I consider this as equally myopic and the only thing this supports this is our current power structures held by a few privilaged folks still.

We do live in a interesting world and I may add the old addage- the truth is always stranger than fiction...

-Growing up with Vietnam vets around you and 'what really went on' and not 'what officially went on' got me started on the bandwagon when I was young. I
raided the library more than the football field admittedly. I've made up for that since then. I also remember a particular english teacher in high school
and a book- Farenheit 451 by Ray Bradburry of a future world where books are illegal except for the 'govt approved media systems'. Its scary to think
we may be heading toward that direction. "Communist Menace"-Reds in The Bed- - Macarthism- The Domino Theory- The WAR Against Terrorism
new names for a old thing. Fear is a mindkiller and works great for most people as they are afraid to venture where only the few go. Independant
thought is a dangerous thing- ask Adolph in his book Mein Kamph!! Go the Borg.

http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id1.html

Funny how Carl Scully(NSW Police Minister) 'called a conspiracy' the document pertaining to the Cronulla Riots- did not exist. The media and public eventually forced it to be given and it had some damning information of what 'actually' went on. Now who has egg on their face? I'll try and dig up some stuff on that soon.
I wonder how many documents of shattering proportions are sitting in peoples drawers, storage mediums and filing cabinets somewhere...

I think the internet is the best library since the Library of Alexandria- which was burnt down might I add long ago. Many people fear books and knowledge for some reason. Truth and the search of it lies in the heart of being human and wanting to know more. I hope the internet does not get 'burnt down' as well as some folks are planning...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria

Who said it would not happen again!! ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CHzuSTowRg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgCWzU_uVM
Hey they've learnt their lessons from Hitler! Why be blatant be stealthy instead! Nobody knows about it
as its not on TV whats about to happen to the internet soon...
www.savetheinternet.com

There is some truth in everything if you look hard enough and talk to the right people. I am not the truth- nor do I ever intend to be as I have little ego to brag about compared with others on the idiot box-media. I try and be as impartial as possible and give many points of view so you can determine your own conclusions on a subject/s. I believe in liberty and freedom of information above all. When it is 'hidden' I will not cease to expose other ideas and agendas some folks don't wish to talk about either its not in our 'interest' to know or it would be the downfall of order potentially and their power bases. History has shown this as to be key - time and time again.

If you wish anything searched up post it and I will find out. From poltergeists
to the space time continium I am 'all ears'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrvE_...elated&search=
The puppetmasters- history channel perspective.