Wanneroo off the calander

[mikeauxr6]

Was announced on the News tonight that no round for WA this year.Avesco said that Wanneroo is like a third world country.Has anybody else heard about the cancellation.We have been getting up at 3.00am to get to the track early for a good spot for the last 20 years.Stand there with hundreds of others waiting for the gates to open at 6.00.Nice way to treat your long standing fans Cochrane.

[fordnut]

How many dedicated race circuits do the V8s race on in Oz now?

[XB351Hardtop]

Quote: Originally Posted by mikeauxr6

Was announced on the News tonight that no round for WA this year.Avesco said that Wanneroo is like a third world country.Has anybody else heard about the cancellation.We have been getting up at 3.00am to get to the track early for a good spot for the last 20 years.Stand there with hundreds of others waiting for the gates to open at 6.00.Nice way to treat your long standing fans Cochrane.

There are plenty of seats at the Abudi Dabi and the other Arab round.....thats out your way somewhere isn't it???

[trickyxr]

Poor facilities = true fans (rif raf)

New facilities =stuck up fans

The powers that be want a change in the type of crowd they attract to the races, out with the old in with the new.

Car racing is heading the wrong way as far as us old type of fans go.

[FG40]

Way too comercialised now. What are they chasing sophisticated bogans

[fordnut]

Like most sports today, promoters greed & want for more & more profit is what's driving it. Not what the fans really want out of their sport.

[GCRXR6]

Quote: Originally Posted by trickyxr

Poor facilities = true fans (rif raf) New facilities =stuck up fans The powers that be want a change in the type of crowd they attract to the races, out with the old in with the new. Car racing is heading the wrong way as far as us old type of fans go.

Not quite Tricky.

OH&S is a bigplayer in any avenue today. Owners, promotors, teams and drivers are all responsible to ensure safety to race fans, drivers, team members, sponsors, promotors and owners. Race fans are also responsible, but generally acknowleged to a lesser degree.

The owner and promotor are responsible to ensure that pit facilities contribute to a safe workplace.

If the paddock has no barrier to keep the fans away from moving vehicles, and a fan is injured if struck by a vehicle, then the driver, the team, the team owner, the promotor, the owner and any other person connected to that vehicle is accountable. The fee you pay as entry to the paddock, is in a large part, payment of an insurance policy.

Part of your general admission fee also goes toward insurance. That's why the catch fence and barriers are in place. The promotor, the owner etc have been instructed by insurance companies and government legislation to ensure the race fan is separated from danger.

This is one reason why many smaller local speedway tracks around the country have closed also. Not enough income to pay the necessary bills.

Cheers

[mikeauxr6]

Just on another sour note.On the news last night some noddy from Avesco was saying it cost 2.5 million too bring the V8 Circuis to town.We get 90000 spectators over the weekend.My point is what the hell does it cost to go to the middle east rounds and what is the return from the less then full crowds over there.Wonder if they get the squeeze put on them for more sanction money or a no show will follow.My guess is theV8s pay for the privlige

[trickyxr]

Quote: Originally Posted by GCRXR6

Not quite Tricky. OH&S is a bigplayer in any avenue today. Owners, promotors, teams and drivers are all responsible to ensure safety to race fans, drivers, team members, sponsors, promotors and owners. Race fans are also responsible, but generally acknowleged to a lesser degree. The owner and promotor are responsible to ensure that pit facilities contribute to a safe workplace. If the paddock has no barrier to keep the fans away from moving vehicles, and a fan is injured if struck by a vehicle, then the driver, the team, the team owner, the promotor, the owner and any other person connected to that vehicle is accountable. The fee you pay as entry to the paddock, is in a large part, payment of an insurance policy. Part of your general admission fee also goes toward insurance. That's why the catch fence and barriers are in place. The promotor, the owner etc have been instructed by insurance companies and government legislation to ensure the race fan is separated from danger. This is one reason why many smaller local speedway tracks around the country have closed also. Not enough income to pay the necessary bills. Cheers

I dont know what this track was like, maybe someone can tell me, However i have been to plenty of speedway tracks footy fields and other sporting facilities That have run down toilets etc however they can be some of the best places to attend a event as the atmosphere is generally heaps better than say the sydney track or even bathurst dare i say it.

I dont know if OH&S had anything to do with it.

I wonder what the WA drivers think of this.

Any way its gone and i wonder if they will now add another international track to the championship in the near future.

[Lyonsy]

hmmmm i wounder how much longer the v8's can last ? before bathurst is there last savin grace cause its bathurst.

i much prefer watching these or any other form of speedway now, dident use to be like that.
i think v8's died when ambrose left for nascar.

who says you need tar to wheel stands


iam sorry but your tarmac thing will not do this no matter what you try its just wont slide and do a wheelstand at the same time

[GCRXR6]

Thata boy Lyonsy ... now ya talkin'. On the eight day, God invented sprintcars..

Tricky, I don't deny the atmosphere, however, when peope are injured, they or their families don't give a rats about racetrack atmosphere .... they only care about courtroom atmosphere.

While it costs money to install these measures, it can be more economical than a lost law suit.

Race fans, competitors, teams and officials can still have a good time with safety measures in place.

[40DeluxeCoupe]

I personally dont think that the V8s will ever return to WA to race on Barbagallo Raceway, even though there is talk of spending around $5 million on upgrading it. The only hope for WA, in my opinion, is a street circuit, close to the city centre, and that wont happen as Perth people whinge about the slightest inconveniences and they would not put up with a race circuit on the street. The WA Sporting Car Club (operators of Barbagallo) rely heavily on the V8 round for their yearly income, this is now gone and will seriously affect all motorsport in this state.
The WASCC was instrumental in the demise of Superkart racing in WA, by imposing exorbitant track hire fees on this small club, years ago, so the old saying rings true. "What goes around, comes around". They will now feel the pinch, a lot of people in WA wont be sad.

[trickyxr]

Quote: Originally Posted by GCRXR6

Thata boy Lyonsy ... now ya talkin'. On the eight day, God invented sprintcars.. Tricky, I don't deny the atmosphere, however, when peope are injured, they or their families don't give a rats about racetrack atmosphere .... they only care about courtroom atmosphere. While it costs money to install these measures, it can be more economical than a lost law suit. Race fans, competitors, teams and officials can still have a good time with safety measures in place.

Did some get hurt or killed over there? I didnt hear a thing. Thats terrible if they did.

Canberra speedway has done lots of work over the last 2 seasons and now that we have a catch fence all the way around the track, we should be racing sprintcars there this season.

[Lyonsy]

i hope to be up at the act track racing next time the karts run there.

[GCRXR6]

Quote: Originally Posted by trickyxr

Did some get hurt or killed over there? I didnt hear a thing. Thats terrible if they did. Canberra speedway has done lots of work over the last 2 seasons and now that we have a catch fence all the way around the track, we should be racing sprintcars there this season.

No Tricky, I didn't imply that anyone did. What I did say was that people soon forget the atmosphere when an accident does happen.

There are many instances where people have been injured and killed at race tracks around Australia and overseas. In virtually all cases, there was a lack of separation between the car and victim/s.

Over the years, as laws have been passed and safety barriers put in place, the injuries have been reduced, but still occur.

Just what is the OH&S problem at Wanneroo, has not been published, and may or may not be a smoke screen. But for VESA to make that claim wound surely leave them open to a damages claim.

By the way, I didn't know ACT had a speedway again after the closure of Fraser Park years ago (housing development intrusion again).

When you say "We have a catch fence ... " are you a member? If so, good on ya... great sport.

Cheers

[trickyxr]

Quote: Originally Posted by GCRXR6

No Tricky, I didn't imply that anyone did. What I did say was that people soon forget the atmosphere when an accident does happen. There are many instances where people have been injured and killed at race tracks around Australia and overseas. In virtually all cases, there was a lack of separation between the car and victim/s. Over the years, as laws have been passed and safety barriers put in place, the injuries have been reduced, but still occur. Just what is the OH&S problem at Wanneroo, has not been published, and may or may not be a smoke screen. But for VESA to make that claim wound surely leave them open to a damages claim. By the way, I didn't know ACT had a speedway again after the closure of Fraser Park years ago (housing development intrusion again). When you say "We have a catch fence ... " are you a member? If so, good on ya... great sport. Cheers

Yep i am a member i race a v8 cortina and my son has just finished the juniors we are not racing this year$$$$...