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    Default Mustang sales please explain

    Mustang sold 70000 in 2011, 83000 in 2012. It managed 48000 for the first half of 2013.
    So how does Dearborn justify a platform for only ONE car that sells less than 100,000 a year?
    They want everything else to be "global".

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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    We'll I should look down here more often. Man this
    site has grown.

    Back to the point I agree why make the Falcon a superior
    handling RWD the victim of 'global' thinking.

    A Falcon is more of a global car than the Mustang was.
    From SE Asia, Africa and never had Middle East,
    European or US and Canadian Markets.

    It would sell more than Mustang as it has 4 doors
    not 2. The SUV of RWD's....
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    Ford missed the boat in the middle east, terri and falcon could have been king, but chrysler and GM playing only with their left hand have become heroes and let hyundai and toyota dominate.

    weak!

    shame as the ME as one of the fastest growing markets on the planet.

    lhd XR6T could have been king here, instead its the Charger R/T, a very ordinary car cf the XR6t

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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizards Sleeve View Post
    Ford missed the boat in the middle east, terri and falcon could have been king, but chrysler and GM playing only with their left hand have become heroes and let hyundai and toyota dominate.

    weak!

    shame as the ME as one of the fastest growing markets on the planet.

    lhd XR6T could have been king here, instead its the Charger R/T, a very ordinary car cf the XR6t
    You forget Russia and Eastern Europe where
    a cheap AUD Falcon would be better/parity than
    anything Euro at the same price range.

    Scandinavia has a big car following as well...they did
    test the GT there did'nt they?

    Would be great on those long country quiet roads...

    Ford have not missed the boat if it realises its mistake.

    Skoda makes a business so why cannot Ford Australia.

    The UK could easily take the Falcon if the Poms would
    swallow their pride and while the Focus is a awesome car
    the Mondeo was a afterthought. Its no Cortina of old.
    The Falcon in LPG would get past UK laws easily.
    Turbo 6 would sell I agree. Its probably one of the
    easiest tunable motors on the market for the price.


    Its in Sweeden so why don't they have one on offer too?

    http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-falc...2Bfalcon&pmt=b
    Shame its not like Ebay and with no buy now option....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Bolan View Post
    Mustang sold 70000 in 2011, 83000 in 2012. It managed 48000 for the first half of 2013.
    So how does Dearborn justify a platform for only ONE car that sells less than 100,000 a year?
    They want everything else to be "global".
    The honest answer? Because it's the Mustang. If there is one car in the Ford hierarchy that gets an eternal pass on having to meet x or y criteria it's the Mustang. The car is just too important to the heritage of Ford Motor Company to get rid of and too important to the company as an American icon to mess with very much in terms of layout, engineering, etc.

    I would have liked to have seen Ford try much harder to find a future for Falcon and Territory, and even for a seriously updated inline-6, in the Ford lineup beyond 2016, but so it goes.

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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    The Mustang also makes Ford money in the racing parts market. Take a look at fordracingparts.com and check how much of what they sell is for the Mustang market

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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    most car sellers forget about the service and parts profit.

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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    Problem is the falcon isnt cheap.

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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizards Sleeve View Post
    Problem is the falcon isnt cheap.
    the Mustang is USD is not cheap either. If people want cheap
    and cheerful a Falcon or Mustang is not for them. They are drivers
    cars and developed in such a way.

    The Falcon still undercuts a 5 series or E Class with
    a equivalent powerplant for much less. Explain that.

    Like I said before in Eastern Europe where petrol is much
    cheaper is a undiscovered country for car sales. Arab sales
    would be plentyful once they realise what a good road car
    it is on long boring desert drives...won't break down as much
    as something 'cheap' either.

    Everybody knows you can get a cheap Mercedes from
    Albania...how about a cheap Falcon.
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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    falcon is cheep.
    my dad purchased a new diesel triton this week for $4K less than a falcon sedan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehoos View Post
    falcon is cheep.
    my dad purchased a new diesel triton this week for $4K less than a falcon sedan.
    Probably base model Triton which are cheap atm!

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    single cab-bucket seats.farmer pack.

    base model is very cheep.

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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizards Sleeve View Post
    Ford missed the boat in the middle east, terri and falcon could have been king, but chrysler and GM playing only with their left hand have become heroes and let hyundai and toyota dominate.

    weak!

    shame as the ME as one of the fastest growing markets on the planet.

    lhd XR6T could have been king here, instead its the Charger R/T, a very ordinary car cf the XR6t
    I doubt the XR6T would perform well in such a hot climate. Both my XR6Ts drove like dogs in hot weather (35+C days).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehoos View Post
    falcon is cheep.
    my dad purchased a new diesel triton this week for $4K less than a falcon sedan.
    How about a Falcon ute. A little more practical as a workhorse than a sedan would.

    As for your love of everything VW Im not so amused Perun. One of my friends was involved
    in a smash in a 2009 Golf and was written off in a low speed front prang. The airbags did
    not deploy and the B-pillar was bent. Not happy Jan nor was she...BTW one of my friends
    owns a nice German built type r and he is thinking about some serious quality control issues
    on the budget models...

    and lets not get started on VW power delivery problems...

    XR6T need tuning Perun. You should know that. I don't see many HWP XR6T parked at the
    side of the road...my EL is tuned as well. Tuning is a must for Falcons as Ford 'undertune'
    them all except for FPV ones...this problem could be easily fixed as you know.

    The FG is light years better than the BA days. Driving both BA II and FG II there is
    a noticeable difference.
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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    My dad was buying a vehicle for a farm.so a falcon ute wasn't a choice-a ranger 2.2 4X2 would be the closest ford badge product.
    the reference was that its only a few $K less than a falcon.

    the turbo falcon is like a turbo VL or skyline,good for a little extra some times.you cant use it hot conditions.but it makes a great GT.

    the tuning with most falcons is my bearbug-but that because ive seen these with cheeper tunes-running better.

    I had a VW Crafter in NZ.
    loved it--other than the climate control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehoos View Post
    My dad was buying a vehicle for a farm.so a falcon ute wasn't a choice-a ranger 2.2 4X2 would be the closest ford badge product.
    the reference was that its only a few $K less than a falcon.

    the turbo falcon is like a turbo VL or skyline,good for a little extra some times.you cant use it hot conditions.but it makes a great GT.

    the tuning with most falcons is my bearbug-but that because ive seen these with cheeper tunes-running better.

    I had a VW Crafter in NZ.
    loved it--other than the climate control.
    Why not a Falcon ute? too small for farm work or does the dual cabs offer more durability & capability.

    I think you will see the traditional utes from Ford & Holden will decline to the point of being discontinued, this what happened to the panel vans.

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    Why not a Falcon ute? too small for farm work or does the dual cabs offer more durability & capability.
    triton is smaller than falcon-high ground clearance.tray is the same as my work ranger.

    Normal falcon ute is too low with expencive bits and expenncive repairs.the tyres are too easily damaged.its more suited to road work.

    He looked at our work utes and my brother had a few different utes.
    He has plenty of reps visiting the farm with range of vehicles and neighbour has Isuzu dealership.
    the mitubishi dealers like customers.....

    Dad is over 70 year old under 5"-10 tall-under 70Kg.Ít has heeps of room in the front seat for the dog.its a single cab bucket seat alloy tray.
    the dealer had petrol ready to drive out but the diesel took 2 weeks waiting for the tray.
    the triton is farm maintanence friendly.it has ABS, simple gear box and a radio.

    we have 500 acre farm,20% she oak swamp 40% goat country.200-400 head of cattle.100 000 free range turkey.60 acres of cropable area.
    area is no more than 2 Km from dads house.

    Local roads are B grade and half are gravel. longest trip will be 50Km.

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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    Quote Originally Posted by Davehoos View Post
    Why not a Falcon ute? too small for farm work or does the dual cabs offer more durability & capability.
    triton is smaller than falcon-high ground clearance.tray is the same as my work ranger.

    Normal falcon ute is too low with expencive bits and expenncive repairs.the tyres are too easily damaged.its more suited to road work.
    .
    Fair enough so he stayed with a single cab with high ground clearance & bigger tray.
    I would prefer a super cab but every one to their own.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syr74 View Post
    The honest answer? Because it's the Mustang. If there is one car in the Ford hierarchy that gets an eternal pass on having to meet x or y criteria it's the Mustang. The car is just too important to the heritage of Ford Motor Company to get rid of and too important to the company as an American icon to mess with very much in terms of layout, engineering, etc.

    I would have liked to have seen Ford try much harder to find a future for Falcon and Territory, and even for a seriously updated inline-6, in the Ford lineup beyond 2016, but so it goes.
    In a perfect world you'd send us Mustangs and we'd send you back Falcons. However the cold-heartedness of Ford Management make
    sure that will never happen. There happy to see a good car die not because it was not fast, reliable, spacious and pretty economical driven
    at a sensible speed but because management thinks its the 'right' decision. With all the US 'Pivot in the Pacific' you'd think there
    manufacturers would give us a second look. I guess not. So the way things go by 2016 we will be the Ford Australia Nostalgia Forums
    I remember in our forums back in 2003 when the BA won Car of the Year and with all the talks of export oppotunties then we had all
    the 'excuses' with relitiverly simple LHD conversion when digital controls these days would make that problem easily solved...I think the oppotunties for export were scuttled by US head office and like JFK was doomed to die. The inline 6 is a powerful motor and with
    a turbo attached is a equal to your 5 litre s/c mustang engine. In modified form they go down the quarter in 10's for not
    much money spent and is probably one of the most overlooked sleeper cars in existence and with its IRS setup to
    be in the new Mustang can go around corners just as well.

    I suppose the Brits gave you the Spitfire during the war and you had the same engine as you war winning Mustang...never to be...
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    Default Re: Mustang sales please explain

    Ford have the focus for sales worldwide and are increasing range of small SUVs. These sizes are the big sellers.

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