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    Default FG XR6 - Transmission filter?

    Hello all,

    I got myself a 08 XR6 with 102k km on it (when I bought it) and I want to do all the servicing on it myself. I was going to change the rotors and pads, the shocks, the plugs, the belt, the oil/filter, the diff oil, the air filter, the fuel filter, the coolant, the radiator hoses, the power steering fluid, the transmission fluid and possible the brake fluid. I was planning to do this all myself (I work in a maintenance department on mining equipment). This is the first Ford I have owned.

    On the net, I found a transmission filter. Does my sedan have a filter in the transmission oil? I have never owned a auto before either. If so, where do I find it to change it?

    Also, is there any workshop manuals for this vehicle that would be easy to come by?

    Thanks, Jimmy.F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy.F View Post
    Hello all,

    I got myself a 08 XR6 with 102k km on it (when I bought it) and I want to do all the servicing on it myself. I was going to change the rotors and pads, the shocks, the plugs, the belt, the oil/filter, the diff oil, the air filter, the fuel filter, the coolant, the radiator hoses, the power steering fluid, the transmission fluid and possible the brake fluid. I was planning to do this all myself (I work in a maintenance department on mining equipment). This is the first Ford I have owned.

    On the net, I found a transmission filter. Does my sedan have a filter in the transmission oil? I have never owned a auto before either. If so, where do I find it to change it?

    Also, is there any workshop manuals for this vehicle that would be easy to come by?

    Thanks, Jimmy.F
    Workshop manual is from Ford only, very expensive $900 to $1000 on average.
    If you have the 5 Speed Auto I will send you some instructions on how to do it but it requires special procedure, might pay to have Ford or an Auto transmission business to do it.
    Yes your auto has a filter, at the bottom of trans, you will see it when pan is dropped.
    Just pm your email address and I will send a copy in the next week.

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    Default Re: FG XR6 - Transmission filter?

    I purchased a BA-BF-territory manual today for $42-gregories-when i was buying oil filter.

    not a lot in it-just the basic stuff any sencible gent can handle,I got it so i can find electrical parts and timing chain stuff.

    german ZF box-150 000KM fluid change--at that rate its cheeper to pay someone to do it properly.

    I had a down loaded manual BA but there is not much in these 2 for My gas model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehoos View Post
    I purchased a BA-BF-territory manual today for $42-gregories-when i was buying oil filter.

    not a lot in it-just the basic stuff any sencible gent can handle,I got it so i can find electrical parts and timing chain stuff.

    german ZF box-150 000KM fluid change--at that rate its cheeper to pay someone to do it properly.

    I had a down loaded manual BA but there is not much in these 2 for My gas model.
    BA/BF Manual does not cover the FG 5 speed Automatic transmission



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    The ZF- the thing I was instructed was you are required to static strap the trans and your arms when working on the transmision.IE removal.to work on the engine.or disconecting the wiring loom.
    the gearbox ecu is inside the transmision and with warrany repairs it is vendor repair-so the manual will only cover R/R.
    any damage to the electricals and they walk away from warranty.originally you had to go to the dealer and inform them if you required oil.

    the trans is used but other companies and most of the landrover disco gents have what you require including steel trans pans for those in the bush.
    the gregories covers speed sencor-linkages-oil seal-drive plate and mountings--but no interal repairs.I dont think these have bands.

    cheeper to pay for repairs at a trans specialist.

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    Hey Jimmy,
    I would recommend having a specialist service your transmission as well.If you have the ZF 6 speed like i do,the oil alone is around 50 bucks a litre.And it takes 8 litres to fill.Also you might want to replace the plastic pan with a steel one while your at it.I had mine serviced with the steel pan fitted,new oil and filter and new gasket for just over 600 bucks.Might be cheaper if you have a 5 speed.I just reckon having it done by a specialist is worthwhile as they know how to do it right first time..
    Good luck..

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    Davehoos & Lioneater, if you had taken notice of Jimmy.F signature he has a 5 Speed Automatic transmission not the ZF-6HP26/X 6 Speed you are referring to....
    sorry to say but your info is irrelevant to this particular post.

    I have already sent him the relevant instructions he requires
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    Default Re: FG XR6 - Transmission filter?

    Yeah, it's a 5-speed.

    Lioneater , I understand your point, but I feel with the instructions, I am capable of doing it myself.

    PD56, thanks for that. Very helpful indeed.

    Jimmy.F

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    Default Re: FG XR6 - Transmission filter?

    Guys, I jumped under my Falcon and it already has a metal pan on it. Does this mean it has already had the trans oil changed? Say, at 100k km? Did the 08 XR6 5-Auto come with a plastic one?

    Cheers, Jimmy.F

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    Default Re: FG XR6 - Transmission filter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy.F View Post
    Guys, I jumped under my Falcon and it already has a metal pan on it. Does this mean it has already had the trans oil changed? Say, at 100k km? Did the 08 XR6 5-Auto come with a plastic one?

    Cheers, Jimmy.F
    My 5 speed has an original metal pan.
    Far as I'm aware all the 5 speed pans are metal.
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    the ZF 6 speed has a plastic pan.

    work FG has an alloy pan with lots of small bolts.
    I was under the impression it is an ION box.

    the old 4 speed auto has a pressed tin alloy with a few bolts fitted to egas cars..

    sorry-I never heard of a 5 speed auto before -the work utes and cars show only 4 gears on the indicator and have the sport shift ive seen nothing in the owners manual.i did the quick google and found it refered to the french box in the exploder that suffers band failures for 3rd gear.

    the boss has complained that his feels like has few extra gears with the tip tronic and had it checked thinking it had a lockout tourque convertor issue.when it came back from repairs it stopped shuffling gears.i read that it has an anti shuffle program to stop thinking about changing gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehoos View Post
    the ZF 6 speed has a plastic pan.

    work FG has an alloy pan with lots of small bolts.
    I was under the impression it is an ION box.

    the old 4 speed auto has a pressed tin alloy with a few bolts fitted to egas cars..

    sorry-I never heard of a 5 speed auto before -the work utes and cars show only 4 gears on the indicator and have the sport shift ive seen nothing in the owners manual.i did the quick google and found it refered to the french box in the exploder that suffers band failures for 3rd gear.

    the boss has complained that his feels like has few extra gears with the tip tronic and had it checked thinking it had a lockout tourque convertor issue.when it came back from repairs it stopped shuffling gears.i read that it has an anti shuffle program to stop thinking about changing gears.
    Well I can assure you the FG's did come out with the 5 speed Autos as they were fitted to the 2009 & 2010 models before the XZ 6 speed was introduced in June 2010...... I own an XR6 5 speed auto ute.
    In reality the Fg's have 4,5 & 6 speed autos & depends on what models & options you have.

    The production run on the 5 speed was about 12 months.
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    Default Re: FG XR6 - Transmission filter?

    Just wondering; Is there anyone out there that has changed their transmission fluid by themselves and not at a dealer? I have some questions.

    Cheers, Jimmy

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    changing fluid nothing to hard.
    refill its easy with a pump.

    easy way is through the cooler lines-most mechanics doing this regularly make hoses up.
    you said that you work for a mining service depo and most machinery now are using fuel lines with similar conectors.i often thow out pipes as they cant seal correctly.

    I dont understand but if you search for BA-BF cooler you see pictures and some gents here advising to buy some very expencive blue anodised conections for unknown reason to bypass the factory cooler.The BA radiator is a know weak link and for some strange reason ford and ford owners fit over priced cooler after it has been cooled.

    if you never seen this done----the oil comes out of the trans outlet hose to the oil cooler.
    hot and under medium pressure-as it empties it foams and sprays around so undoing the pipe and starting the engine is not a safe way to do this.
    and TAKES A FEW MINUTES TO CLEAN UP THE MESS.

    steering oil is also done the same-steering is done with the low pressure return hose-its about the same as the auto box.

    a better way is to suck out the oil through the filler plug then remove the pan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehoos View Post
    changing fluid nothing to hard.
    refill its easy with a pump.

    easy way is through the cooler lines-most mechanics doing this regularly make hoses up.
    you said that you work for a mining service depo and most machinery now are using fuel lines with similar conectors.i often thow out pipes as they cant seal correctly.

    I dont understand but if you search for BA-BF cooler you see pictures and some gents here advising to buy some very expencive blue anodised conections for unknown reason to bypass the factory cooler.The BA radiator is a know weak link and for some strange reason ford and ford owners fit over priced cooler after it has been cooled.

    if you never seen this done----the oil comes out of the trans outlet hose to the oil cooler.
    hot and under medium pressure-as it empties it foams and sprays around so undoing the pipe and starting the engine is not a safe way to do this.
    and TAKES A FEW MINUTES TO CLEAN UP THE MESS.

    steering oil is also done the same-steering is done with the low pressure return hose-its about the same as the auto box.

    a better way is to suck out the oil through the filler plug then remove the pan.
    You obviously have not serviced a Ford FG 5 speed Auto transmission because your response contradicts as what is stated in the work shop manual.
    Checking & filling these Autos are totally different procedure to the normal 4 & 6 speed autos.

    It might pay for you to do some proper research before giving out misleading info.

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    as i stated at begining take it to a reputable auto trans ar gearbox specialist go to pub and have wife pick it up..

    Jimmy is asking how to change fluid not service the G/box.drain and refill.the best way to empty is through the cooler pipes as it empty out convertor crud.

    well then what is it>.remove the plug after switching off-they dont have a dip stick---what isnt ok is over filling when hot as it comes out the box under pressure ready to ignite.


    proceedure 4R44E/4R55E, Bordeaux Transmission exploder
    Don your protective gear. Carefully crawl under the vehicle. Warning: The hot exhaust pipes will burn you in an instant! Move slowly and carefully; no need to rush.
    Position your drain pan underneath the drain. Bring rags
    Keep the motor running. The transmission needs to have fluid actively being pumped into all the passages.
    Carefully screw the special Ford transmission plug adapter into the drain hole
    Push the output-hose onto the special Ford transmission plug adapter
    Carefully pump fluid into the transmission, then pause to check.
    Once fluid starts flowing out you're almost done.
    You just need to be patient for a couple of minutes until the flood subsides.
    Time: Approximately 2.5 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehoos View Post
    as i stated at begining take it to a reputable auto trans ar gearbox specialist go to pub and have wife pick it up..

    Jimmy is asking how to change fluid not service the G/box.drain and refill.the best way to empty is through the cooler pipes as it empty out convertor crud.

    well then what is it>.remove the plug after switching off-they dont have a dip stick---what isnt ok is over filling when hot as it comes out the box under pressure ready to ignite.


    proceedure 4R44E/4R55E, Bordeaux Transmission exploder
    Don your protective gear. Carefully crawl under the vehicle. Warning: The hot exhaust pipes will burn you in an instant! Move slowly and carefully; no need to rush.
    Position your drain pan underneath the drain. Bring rags
    Keep the motor running. The transmission needs to have fluid actively being pumped into all the passages.
    Carefully screw the special Ford transmission plug adapter into the drain hole
    Push the output-hose onto the special Ford transmission plug adapter
    Carefully pump fluid into the transmission, then pause to check.
    Once fluid starts flowing out you're almost done.
    You just need to be patient for a couple of minutes until the flood subsides.
    Time: Approximately 2.5 hours
    I see you google'd for more answers as usual, no need for me to respond on this subject as you seem to know it all.
    Have a nice day....

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    I asked the local dealer that does the warranty work and supplies parts on our fleet to confirm any issues that might cause warranty issues directly due to incorrect servicing. after beeing informed that the vehicle i drive has this transmision and not an updated 4 speed with shift issues.
    one vehicle has had complaints about the shift quality but it been decided not to repair it due to our cost and it replacment is due and another has a large dent in the lower case that may need eplacment at outr cost.
    all they are concerned with is correct oil and the issue with these vehicles is getting it correctly filled.under filled the fluid foams and the shift varies over filled it can pump out the excess when hot on to the exhaust.

    the material I googled to dumb it down for a forum use as it is in public domain and not from a manual to gain a technical usefull responce.
    nodody realy uses a ford special tool in the filler plug to allow safe filling.

    because the last thing people should be doing is servicing one off vehicles as the service information is not all that correct and dealers are not required to be helpfull.

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    Default Re: FG XR6 - Transmission filter?

    There is a reason for a correct method to doing things, hence a workshop manual.....
    I know a tradesman can do & will do short cuts but that is not the point here for reason being is when you train some one or show a procedure you do it by the book otherwise you can teach bad habits which could be detrimental to the OP......

    The OP asked for questions which I responded & supplied correct info for the FG 5 speed auto, not half answers and ramblings do with with BA/BF's as you mentioned in this post which has nothing to do with this post.
    You should try to stay focused on the subject.

    Again have a nice day.
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