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    Default Old vs new: Shelby, Camaro and Challenger (video)

    Here's an interesting video comparing the Camaro, Challenger and Shelby GT500 with their respective predecessors. It goes for 9 mins and in typical American fashion they think the cars handle well, but anyway. They certainly sound good!
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    Default Re: Old vs new: Shelby, Camaro and Challenger (video)

    Interesting. Nice find.
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    Still, I've owned plenty of Fords before......

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    I've never looked here before and found this interesting.
    It's not about the stats those old cars are alive, you feel it as soon as the engine starts. The monster is alive.
    I know, I've had and or driven most of them. All my friends had a muscle car as I did at the time.
    The bloody things frightened the sh.....t out of you. Yes they didn't necessarily handle that well and yes they didn't stop either.
    I laughed when they talked about Polyglass tyres. The most frightening experience I ever had was with these things.
    Still these cars all put a smile on your dial that no modern car will.
    By the way, the acceleration times for these cars, no self respecting Dodge Challenger went down the quarter mile in more than mid 11's.
    Very easy to tune. power output, they all lied. Simply Ripping the carby off and replacing it with something that would breathe, and they flew.
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    I was tailsliding around corners in my old Fairlane with a GTR and won. Some people cannot
    drive leaf springs properly. It was sooooooooo much fun. The modern cars have power
    but lack character.

    The reporter sounds like he's on Valium. He was'nt born in the 60's or have a Dad or a mate
    who gave you the keys. You'd have to electrocute the interviewer to get him excited.

    Old School Modded 428 Cobra Jet Slow? Change the carby and better heads. 12 seconds no worries.
    A Australian mob called RRS can makes leafies handle just as good as IRS im told..

    The other major advantage is that old cars like this will be running for another 50 years while
    the modern cars will be hard pressed for parts in 20 years time....
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    Default Re: Old vs new: Shelby, Camaro and Challenger (video)

    one thing the classics always had was looks, it's an interesting group though because those 3 modern cars: Camaro, Mustang and Challenger I reckon they have the best interpretation of the retro look ever. They all came out looking really cool I think and not as contrived and formulated as some of the German Attempts.

    Quote Originally Posted by ELSpeedo View Post
    I was tailsliding around corners in my old Fairlane with a GTR and won. Some people cannot
    drive leaf springs properly.
    That sounds Awesome, perhaps you have a video of that to share with us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizards Sleeve View Post
    That sounds Awesome, perhaps you have a video of that to share with us?
    Video??? What was that. the tape cassette hadn't been invented yet and we still had black & white TV. Video??? I didn't even have a descent camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliveoil_popeye View Post
    Video??? What was that. the tape cassette hadn't been invented yet and we still had black & white TV. Video??? I didn't even have a descent camera.
    Videotape was invented in 1951. GTR was much later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizards Sleeve View Post
    Videotape was invented in 1951. GTR was much later.
    From Wikipedia: See this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS
    I didn't think I was wrong or my memory playing tricks. Probably about 1973 in WA before we had Video.

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    Default Re: Old vs new: Shelby, Camaro and Challenger (video)

    VHS is a type of video, are many alternatives, was invented long before, wasn't cheap though.

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    Never make new muscle cars they were drive by the seat of your pants. Huge horsepower, bad brakes, and worse suspension. Technology will never allow for this mix again. I have old videos of testing my motoring writers testing the 60s cars and they had fun powering the cars through corners to get them to turn. Brake tests required a cool down time after each run. IE my Lincoln weighs about 2400kg and has drum brakes rear and discs front but front pads are small and riveted to pad. Powered by a 460 cub engine which for registration was listed as 365HP (so a lot more really). You can see the fun these cars of the 60s and early 70s were. Concept models now have brakes have sports suspension and electronics a lot more control for driver but kills the fun. I have seen the USA television shows which take a muscle car and update it to become a nice driving vehicle but now they are not a muscle car anymore waste of money and certainly not still a muscle car. Ford sent a driving team of race drivers to Vietnam to demonstrate to soldiers how to handle muscle cars to help prevent their military returning home and purchasing high Hp muscle cars then killing themselves after surviving the war. You can style a car to seem the same but Muscle Cars are now history and never to be repeated.

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