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    with the current Tezza having the same running gear as the falcon.Would it be possible to option a new FG with the V6 Diesel like the latest Territory?Or has the front end been Radically re engineered to hold the Oiler? Because that motor would seem to be popular in a falcon in rural areas,for ease of towing and effortless hwy cruising.should also use less fuel in a car weighing 1800kg roughly.Just a thought.

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    I'd like to see one as well, because I think it would sell remarkably well. Depending on where the platform goes, I think there is a big chance we may see a Diesel Falcon, especially now that the Diesel Territory has the 6R80 Corporate Box, which fits the Duratec V6 engines, and the EcoBoost 4. Whether Ford have the balls to pull it off, however...
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    Shame if they dont..but they wont.
    make our work fleet so much easier.

    sell it with a cheep interest deal like toyota so i dont have to drive a hilux.
    a make a real taxi with a longer wheel base--bigger rear doors.or move the fuel tank to get a better shape of boot [late model falcons are sooo much better than the old types].

    dought the falcon diesel will wiegh in at 1800Kg.
    hyundia I30 Diesel is over 1820 road wieght.most people think these are small cars.
    more wieght-smooth ride.

    I have a R31 skyline with 2.8 6 cyl diesel.both in auto and manual.
    fuel economy was good when loaded,towing or round town.but dreadfull at hyway speeds.
    the car was common overseas in sedan but claimed there is no interest here for australian sales.it was claimed that the engine didnt meet emision rules but it was sold here in the patrol.i fitted one to a wagon to get rid of the gas tank issue and found that it was only slow above 135Kmh

    Problems--fuel stations,these are dirty and smelly for most drivers.high risk of miss fuel due to the filler pipe--in england a filler restrictor is sold to prevent miss fuel.service costs are high for used car buyer.a dead engine will cost more than a car.

    Sell the parts to me and ill build it.

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    So is the diesel only offered in AWD in the terry. If not i wouldn't think it would be that hard a task as the FG and the terry share the same basic platform



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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehoos View Post
    the car was common overseas in sedan but claimed there is no interest here for australian sales.it was claimed that the engine didnt meet emision rules but it was sold here in the patrol.
    There are much more lax ADR's for 'off-road' type vehicles than normal road cars, buggers me why in this day and age but it's still like that.

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    patrol wagon is classed as a passenger car.so most of the ADR's apply the same.thats how i can get it passed easy.
    its not the same with comercial cab chasis version.

    My problem was drive by noise.the skyline is louder at the front than the rear.this would also be an issue with falcon.

    The RD28 passed easy as the R31 is 1984 to 1990.and RD28 are aust mid 90's I didnt have to use a flyby wire engine..today with a current age car AU-BF you use a common rail engine with some sort of catalist/scrubber.

    HSV has fitted 2 BMW[OPEL] diesels to commodore for euro markets..these have to also been complied.

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    It would just undercut sales of the ''EcoBoost" 4 cylinder. They would be aimed at the same market. I think a TURBO diesel would sell better and they could drop the 4 altogether. A 4 pot in a Falc just isn't right. Fleet sales will not improve Ford's position. The cars need to be more appealing to the Australian public.

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    they need to 4 pot to meet govt "4 cyl only policy". diesel falcon is a good idea. if Audi can do it AND make it sporty, then why not?
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    state parliament, federal parliament and the state and federal police don't have a 4 cyl only policy. Are you referring to local govt?

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    I think you find its only QLD-im not certian about VIC and SA.not hapening in real NSW.
    mitubishi did a 2.4 magna for government sales that they couldnt sell to anyother customer.the owners i talked to love them but normally drive only a few KM a week.

    mitubishi couldnt build enough LPG magna to supply SA.and you had to wait in a big que if you lived outside of SA.

    NSW did this in the 80's and it backfired big time.health dept got sunbirds[post 75] and 200B 78-80.[200B was sold in LPG for victoria and it should have been sold in diesel--my bluebird was a turbo diesel]
    im working for local gov NSW..un less your talking about councils like newcastle that has idiots going around charging companies to tell them not to turn on lights and pay extra for green power because CO2 is pumped down the power poles.

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    It would have a great torque curve. Shame it could not be put into a 4WD model either...
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    HSV has fitted 2 BMW[OPEL] diesels to commodore for euro markets..these have to also been complied.[/QUOTE]


    You may want to check this. The diesel you are thinking of is not a BMW motor. I think the one that was originally said would be a possibility was a VM Motori or something like that. BMW do not do engines for GM, nor anyone else save for a few boutique manufacturers e.g. Maclaren. And the engines they make are about the best diesels on the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bfbetterthanfg View Post
    It would just undercut sales of the ''EcoBoost" 4 cylinder. They would be aimed at the same market.
    yeah it probably would take sales from the EB falcon,but l dont think it would be aimed at the same market.l would'nt really like to be pulling a boat ar caravan with an EB.Not saying it would'nt do it,but would struggle off the line when not on boost. Although the Deisel would do it with the same ease as th L6

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    opel/vauhal carlton/omega has a BMW sourced diesel.I may be produced by a VMetc but unlike the old borgward diesels used in 80's bmw ansd shared with ford i havent seen it refered to by the othe euro engine builder Tags.its a straight 6.
    Year 2001 brought also brand new diesel 2.5 DTI engine from BMW, with "Common Rail" system.
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    this replaced anoter earlier version.

    VS comodore has a gertrag box--it has BMW cast into the rear housing.

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    hmmm i looked up the specs for the 2.7L V6. 140kw and 320nm torque.

    at first i thought not real impressive, however when compared to my 91 5L, at 165kw and 388nm, the V6 is just a shade over 1/2 the displacement. so it is really impressive when you look at it like that, i wonder what km/L it will return?

    what figures dose it return in the 4wd? the Falcon should come in under that. i agree having it as an option would be a must. the EB4 i'm not too sure on until i see how it performs. there are so many (Me Included!) that think replacing the I6 all together would be such a shame! is there any info leaning toward development of an EB I6??

    dose the 2.7 share the same block as any of it's larger siblings?? or at least the same bellhousing as the 2.7? just wondering.... i've contemplated fitting a diesel into my crossflow powered transit purely for the towing torque and a little better economy. but finding either a larger 4cyl or a similar sized 6cyl near the 4L mark with an auto and 2wd option is slim.

    anyone for a 2.7 V6 powered Corty or escort?? >;~)I)
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