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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7210946.stm

    Pakistan goes on nuclear alert amid suspicions of attempts to
    take nuclear material from facilities.

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    Pakistan has raised the state of alert around its nuclear facilities amid concerns they could be targeted by Islamist militants.
    But a senior Pakistan military official said there had been no specific threat to the sites, and insisted that safeguards in place were fool proof.

    Thats poor 'double-talk' if I ever saw it. If Pakistans security is ok there
    would be no need for such a exercise.

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    Poland keeps the agreement on the missiles....

    The Russian response?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7223568.stm

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    Poland and the US have reached an agreement in principle to install a controversial American missile defence system on Polish soil.
    In return for hosting part of the shield, the US has said it will help bolster Poland's air defences.

    The US wants to install interceptor missiles in Poland and a radar base in the Czech Republic. Russia is opposed to the project, claiming it would seriously destabilise global security.

    In October, Russian President Vladimir Putin compared the plans to the Cuban missile crisis of the 1960s, which saw the US and Soviet Union go to the brink of nuclear war. Russia has threatened to point missiles at Europe if the US positions elements of the new missile shield near its borders. In response to this threat, Poland says it wants help to upgrade its air defences.

    A sidenote-

    http://www.bhopal.net/opinions/archi.../07/index.html
    FORMER Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev has warned Australia to avoid nuclear power, urging the Howard Government to pursue it only as "a lesser evil" than coal.

    Less than a week after John Howard indicated he wanted a domestic uranium enrichment industry, Mr Gorbachev said nuclear energy was dangerous and uneconomical.

    The political statesman turned environmental activist, who as president oversaw the catastrophic Chernobyl nuclear plant meltdown in 1986, instead urged Australia, and countries including the US, France and China, to search for alternative sources of energy such as solar power.

    Mr Gorbachev, 75, also called for all nuclear weapons to be destroyed, fearful that signs of a new arms race were emerging across the globe.

    Twenty years after Chernobyl, the world's worst nuclear accident, former Soviet states have spent billions of dollars containing the radiation. But Mr Gorbachev said the full effects of the disaster were still unknown.

    "(Chernobyl) changed our attitude towards nuclear power in a very significant way," he said in Brisbane, where he is a co-chair of Earth Dialogues Brisbane 2006, a three-day forum on the environment, economics and science.

    "(I) believe, given there is a deficit of energy and the power situation in the world is very difficult, that nuclear power stations may be needed, but only as a lesser evil, and only in extreme need should such stations be built."

    Mr Gorbachev said nuclear power became uneconomical when the cost of storing the waste was included in the equation.

    "Nevertheless, a number of countries including the United States, China, Russia, France and others intend to build new nuclear power stations because they need energy and the alternative sources of energy are not yet available.

    "Yet I believe alternative sources are not available precisely because not enough investment is being made into those new sources of energy."

    Mr Howard has appointed a taskforce to examine the viability of nuclear power in Australia.

    But Mr Gorbachev said his Geneva-based environmental group, Green Cross International, was calling for money from the public and private sectors to fund energy research.

    "For the Iraq war, very quickly $100billion was found to execute that war, whereas we need just $50 billion over 10 years for research into solar power which could bring in a few percentage points more of power to the world," he said.

    Despite predictions of an energy crisis within the next 20 years, Mr Gorbachev said signs of an emerging new arms race were of more immediate concern as he called for the destruction of all nuclear weapons. He said one Russian land-based SS18 missile had the power of "100 Chernobyls".

    He also demanded Australia sign the Kyoto Protocol on reducing greenhouse gas emissions, adding: "The best scientists support this approach and all attempts to refute that science have been unsuccessful.

    "I don't think it would be right to continue with the situation when the whole world is marching in the (right) way, whereas just a couple of countries, like the US and Australia, are marching in the (wrong) way.


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    Don't forget the PLA...
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    When Putin says if Poland allows USA to establish a Weapons Shield there etc., Russia will point their Nuclear Weapons towards Europe, Just where are they currently pointing at? Perhaps he shouild be asked that question? What a whole load of upmanship! What is he going to reply? They're pointed at the USA? I doubt if he'd be game enough to say that. Perhaps they are currently pointed downwards? Who knows with Russians. I overheard when the big Russian Transport Jets land in Europe and the Control Tower asks for their current height and position. The reply comes back. "Six foot four and I'm up the front!" LOL.

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    There pointed at us as well- thats all part of mutually assured destruction.
    Most people can work out where there pointed at though its never pointed out.
    As long as I have my Faraday boxes and generators im fine. Putin wants
    to push America to back to WWIII again he can but Carl Sagan will be
    validated for all the wrong reasons. We as a species will fail the test.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/art...200195,00.html
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    Speaking at an EU summit near Lisbon, the Russian president said that his country was confronted with a similar threat to the one faced 45 years ago by the United States, when Nikita Khrushchev stationed Russian missiles on Cuba, 90 miles from the US coast, until forced to remove them by John F Kennedy.

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    But he argued there would be no repeat because Russia and the US were "not enemies anymore... we are partners" and President Bush was a "personal friend".
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7064428.stm
    I would trust Vladamir Putin only with my hands constricting his air supply.
    Lets see how far this gets. Time to visit the cemetery to pay my respects.
    I don't think most people understand how bad its getting.

    BTW- Its now close to 3 minutes to Midnight. The countdown continues. Not far from 2 minutes now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELSpeedo View Post
    There pointed at us as well- thats all part of mutually assured destruction.
    Most people can work out where there pointed at though its never pointed out.
    As long as I have my Faraday boxes and generators im fine. Putin wants
    to push America to back to WWIII again he can but Carl Sagan will be
    validated for all the wrong reasons. We as a species will fail the test.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/art...200195,00.html
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    Speaking at an EU summit near Lisbon, the Russian president said that his country was confronted with a similar threat to the one faced 45 years ago by the United States, when Nikita Khrushchev stationed Russian missiles on Cuba, 90 miles from the US coast, until forced to remove them by John F Kennedy.

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    But he argued there would be no repeat because Russia and the US were "not enemies anymore... we are partners" and President Bush was a "personal friend".
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7064428.stm
    I would trust Vladamir Putin only with my hands constricting his air supply.
    Lets see how far this gets. Time to visit the cemetery to pay my respects.
    I don't think most people understand how bad its getting.
    One error in a simulated War Game and it could be on. No one fights wars these days wthout repetition of simulated war games over and over till the outcome is what they want. The one thing they all forget is human frailty can lose a war even if the game says it's a win. Only the Leaders are cold blooded enough giving orders from their plush armchairs some kilometre or two under the earth. The actual people who do the bidding are the weakness or the strength and neither are guaranteed.

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    according to Mossad WWIII is well and truly underway.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...357552,00.html


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    A third World War is already underway between Islamic militancy and the West but most people do not realize it, the former head of Israel’s intelligence service Mossad said in an interview published Saturday in Portugal.
    ‘We are in the midst of a third World War,’ former Mossad chief Efraim Halevy told weekly newspaper Expresso.

    The world does not understand. A person walks through the streets of Tel Aviv, Barcelona or Buenos Aires and doesn’t get the sense that there is a war going on,’ said Halevy who headed Mossad between 1998 and 2003.

    Looks like the devil will get his wish and at a cost to humanity.
    Its only a matter of time before things start to get out of hand.
    If that includes a nuclear weapon well... the 4 horseman of the
    Apocalypse and the Manhattan Projects legacy from WWII will
    be fulfilled.
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7300090.stm
    Well atleast the Ruskis & Yanks are on somewhat better terms.
    Hopefully we could get on better and fix up some serious misunderstandings
    on both sides as neither is helping things.

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    Defence Secretary Robert Gates suggested a deal on the thorny issue of missile defence could be struck before President George W Bush leaves office. Russian President Vladimir Putin said he had received a "serious document" from Mr Bush which could help produce successful dialogue.

    maybe the Russians may have provided a serious document or two as well.

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    Mr Putin, who steps down next month, said there were "enough problems" to discuss but that some issues could be considered resolved. He gave no further details.

    Mr Gates and Ms Rice have also been meeting President-elect Dmitry Medvedev. "There is a will to move forward," said Mr Medvedev, though he conceded that differences remain.

    I hope the US will listen to Russia on many issues included satellite
    star wars issues as well as the Kosovo issue the one I see that
    the US has to take a serious rethink of what they have suggested
    and the potential global consequences.

    If that problem is solved maybe my doomsday clock can start ticking backward.
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    Endgame.

    I think it fits my scenario 90%.
    A Russian sub/nuclear attack on Australian facilities would
    not be out of the question.

    Naturally in real life there would be little warning given.
    I always have 3 days worth of food and plenty of stores
    before the panic.
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    http://mostlywater.org/making_nuclea...e#comment-3885

    Making Nuclear Extermination Respectable
    by Prof. James Petras

    Interesting review of Isreali/Iranian powerplays for military
    dominance in the region.

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7915517.stm

    Russian Bears fly over Canadian airspace during Pres. Obama's visit.
    I think thats more than a 'co-incidence'.

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    Canadian air force jets intercepted a Russian bomber approaching Canadian air space the day before President Barack Obama visited Ottawa, officials say.

    Two fighter jets met the long-range Bear bomber over the Arctic last week, Defence Minister Peter MacKay said.
    The Russian plane turned around after being signalled by the Canadian pilots, he said.

    The Russians are just probably just checking our 'reaction times'- or political 'show'n off'. Im sure they would not like
    easedropping planes of their coasts either..or armed bombers either. I hope we are not returning to the 'round the
    clock flights over the Arctic like in the old days...

    http://www.airmanonline.af.mil/share...-3961R-997.JPG
    A Hornets eye view.
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    Dimona, up close and personal.

    I wonder how the reactors in Iran are designed, more underground
    bunkers and also in the mountains, could allow considerable concealment
    of other aasets in the area.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYeJ7...eature=related

    Im getting nervous Kraken. This is reminding me back of the 'old days.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dobys9s9f2w
    In case some people finally push that darned button- some excellent survival tips in case of a atomic airburst.
    Remember the first 48 hours is lethal but after 2 weeks the fallout is greatly reduced.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7341336.stm
    Better than iodine tablets? Still nevertheless gamma radiation is not good for you.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygg2u...eature=related
    A warning from Georgia.

    Goodbye Poland and the Czech republic as well. Just a bit of fallout over Hungary and Germany will be ash and cinders
    again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO-BL...eature=related
    The German Doco WIII now in Englisch. This war a simulated nuclear full spectrum war
    back in 1989 maybe in 2010 we should be especially ready. Blackjacks don't fly around
    sightseeing at 30ft...there testing our defenses- still.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLIhc...eature=related
    Topol-M- now there is one WMD that could easily reach Australia.


    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1063991.html
    Isreal has every right to be very nervous about Iran when Iran does not show its full
    capability to the IEAEA.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPEB...eature=related
    Its quite a old documentary yes but it gives the idea of nuclear deterrence and
    the geo-political issues that have not really changed to this very day. We came
    close in 2008- maybe we'll have a Able Archer doco on that one day. When
    you have Blackjacks off the coast only recently the levels of threat have
    never gone away but intentions are always a things to guess and second
    guess as well. With Georgia/Ukraine- Iran and North Korean pressure points you just have
    to modify the levels of deterrence combined with the geo-politics of the
    interested parties there.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eflDF...eature=related
    Two F-15's decided to tag along...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeZu4...eature=related
    Has much changed since this movie has been made?- same game newer problems.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhkAXlbSCgY
    Russia's new teeth?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKvvrNrCOnw&NR=1
    Nukes in Space.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6xAp...eature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctHah...eature=related
    The open question.
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    Tensions on the rise again
    http://www.ohio.com/news/world/88524907.html

    http://www.france24.com/en/20100318-...dle-east-talks

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    MOSCOW: U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and her Russian counterpart clashed openly Thursday over the planned launch this summer of Iran's first, Russian-built nuclear power plant, highlighting a split in views over how to steer Iran away from nuclear weapons.

    Clinton did not criticize the long-delayed project directly but said the Obama administration is opposed to the timing of the nuclear plant's startup. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin announced the summer startup plans Thursday, shortly after Clinton arrived for a two-day visit.

    The nuclear plant is an example of Russian-Iranian economic ties and technical cooperation, on terms that have long made the United States uncomfortable.

    The plant was a background issue during a difficult period in U.S.-Russian relations last year and in the ongoing U.S.-led effort to bring new United Nations economic penalties against Iran over suspicions that part of its nuclear program is aimed at building a bomb.
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    ELSPEEDO I have found an interesting link that ties in with what you have said in the past. Looking quite scary and the outcomes very heavy.

    I see no reason to lie?

    http://www.projectcamelotproductions...-stargate.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    ELSPEEDO I have found an interesting link that ties in with what you have said in the past. Looking quite scary and the outcomes very heavy.

    I see no reason to lie?

    http://www.projectcamelotproductions...-stargate.html
    Yes that may be from a altruistic perspective.
    Project Camelot gives some interesting perspectives
    on world events but as somebody said- there is
    enough truth from fiction so people can only take from it
    what they can comprehend or piece together.
    There is always a old saying from the Manhattan
    Project is that what you see and what you don't...

    Then we had Von Braun and the race to the moon back in the
    60's. The late Bob McNamara said about some wild idea to point nukes
    from the moon and use her trajectory to launch nukes silently
    back at earth for First Strike.. thats only legend but. Could
    counter the Russian new anti-ABM missile system...? Do you
    remember Space Cowboys when they found those MIRV's
    floating silently in space?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWsuA...eature=related
    A communications satellite? Maybe not.

    The Iranians say allegedly they can refine uranium to
    20%. You need 90% to make a bomb. Hope nobody is
    helping them. That Forth Protocol thing again...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrGHG...eature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpiHw...eature=channel
    Well on the upside...
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    http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Ob..._soon_999.html

    SALT talks up in the air- literally.
    No its not the dinner salt but the radioactive variety

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    The new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) was negotiated earlier this year to replace a similar treaty which expired at the end of December.

    Obama appealed to Republicans to help approve the treaty when Congress returns on November 15, after the party put up stiff opposition to the new deal fearing it could hamper US missile defense plans.

    "This is not a traditionally Democratic or Republican issue, but, rather, an issue of American national security," Obama said at a cabinet meeting, two days after Republicans posted strong gains in congressional elections.

    "I'm hopeful that we can get that done... and send a strong signal to Russia that we're serious about reducing nuclear arsenals, but also send a signal to the world that we're serious about non-proliferation," Obama said.


    A Russian pullout? Interesting
    A Russian parliamentary committee has withdrawn its recommendation to ratify a new nuclear disarmament treaty with the United States after the results of the mid-term polls, an official said Wednesday.
    http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Russ...icial_999.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnUiG9Nb1lI
    10 MIRVS per SS-18- the ultimate city destoyer. Rumours of upgrades to counter space rocket?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-36_%2...29#Replacement
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    Commander of the Strategic Rocket Forces Lt. Gen. Andrei Shvaichenko announced in December 16, 2009, that Russia planned to "develop a new liquid-propellant ICBM to replace the Voyevoda (SS-18 Satan), capable of carrying 10 warheads, by 2016

    http://articles.cnn.com/2010-03-25/w...es?_s=PM:WORLD
    Has the Cold War ended- or has the media still asleep? War on Terror is a very old news...Afterall where do the weapons come from...? ? ?

    http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2...the-past-year/

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225871724666
    Its been brewing for a while...

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    North Korea denies responsibility for the sinking, and China pretends to remain neutral. However, the North launched its invasion of the South 60 years ago with Chinese and Soviet backing, but China covered up its support with lies and has never admitted or apologized for its backing. How, then, can we possibly believe China’s denial and profession of neutrality today?

    The Korean War should not be forgotten because it was the first war in which the communist camp tried to expand their influence by force after World War II, and the free world successfully beat them back. It also marked the beginning of the Cold War era.

    To block the communist expansion, NATO developed an integrated military structure in Europe and the East Asian region developed the “crescent-shaped” island chain defense line consisting of South Korea, Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines. However, the two were unable to join up and form a single defense line against communism because China made every effort to co-opt India, Indonesia, Burma, Pakistan and Ceylon (Sri Lanka). In 1955, China called the Asian-African Conference in Bandung, Indonesia, to form a third international force. Meanwhile, China and the Soviet Union were to various degrees inciting Middle Eastern countries against Western democracies.

    http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit.../22/2003480972


    http://russia.foreignpolicyblogs.com/?s=presidential
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    Iran invests on MRBM technology.

    Well the middle east ain't going to be the same. That strike on Iran
    groes closer and it ain't even Christmas yet. The Saudis even want
    to cut the 'snakes' Irans head as there cannot be two therocracies
    in the Middle East it seems.

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010...ide-arms-hunt/

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    Guns and ammo from Turkey. Missile components from Germany. Guidance systems from China. Iran is on a global, clandestine mission to acquire weapons and weapons technologies of all sorts, diplomatic cables released Sunday by WikiLeaks reveal. And the Tehran regime is using a series of front companies in its attempt to assemble the arsenal.

    In a cable from February of 2010, State Department officials in Washington alert the staff at the U.S. embassy in Beijing that a Malaysia-based firm, Electronics Component Limited (ECL), is trying to buy three-axel fiber optic gyroscopes from a Chinese company. This isn’t just a simple business deal, the dispatch makes clear. Gyroscopes measure orientation, which makes them a critical component of weapons’ inertial navigation systems. These particular gyroscopes, the State Department warns, “would be suitable for use in the guidance systems of ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and unmanned aerial vehicles.”

    Worse, the cable adds, “ECL is part of a network of Iranian-controlled front companies that… procures sensitive goods on behalf of a number of Iranian entities of proliferation concern, including the Shahid Hemmat Industrial Group (SHIG), which is Iran’s primary developer of liquid propellant ballistic missiles.”

    The warning is part of a common thread emerging from WikiLeaks’ three major document dumps. These diplomatic dispatches, along with war logs from Afghanistan and Iraq, detail a globe-spanning Cold War between Iran and the United States. Each side has its proxies, each side provides weapons to those allies, and each side uses the game of global diplomacy to corral the other’s ambitions. “The metaphor most commonly deployed by Jordanian officials when discussing Iran is of an octopus whose tentacles reach out insidiously to manipulate, foment, and undermine the best laid plans of the West and regional moderates,” one WikiLeaked cable reports.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8SK2...eature=related
    It was made back in the 1950's - at the height of the nuke buildup to today. If it ever does happen..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4b3H...eature=related
    Back in the good old days. Some here would quietly wish the old days were back.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/24/wo....html?_r=1&hpw
    From bankrolling the Nazis to selling nuclear secrets the Swiss cannot keep themselves out of trouble.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_QFX...eature=related
    Maybe this also has something to do in a 'moral way' like what happening
    in Japan as I speak. Nuclear fallout ain't funny especially if its blowing
    your way and the radiation you cannot see as well within a certain vicinity
    This is much arguement now as to the distance.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident

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    The disaster began during a systems test on 26 April 1986 at reactor number four of the Chernobyl plant, which is near the town of Pripyat. There was a sudden power output surge, and when an emergency shutdown was attempted, a more extreme spike in power output occurred, which led to a reactor vessel rupture and a series of explosions. This event exposed the graphite moderator components of the reactor to air, causing them to ignite. The resulting fire sent a plume of radioactive fallout into the atmosphere and over an extensive geographical area, including Pripyat. The plume drifted over large parts of the western Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Western Europe, and Northern Europe. Large areas in Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia were evacuated, and over 336,000 people were resettled. According to official post-Soviet data,[1][2] about 60% of the fallout landed in Belarus.

    Nuclear weapons and nuclear power are based on the same
    design from the legacy of WWII. I need mention Einsteins views on the subject.

    For those who remember Chernobyl and then Hiroshima and Nagasaki
    may also know. Three Mile Island nearly did the same.

    Then are the tales on the Internet of super bunker busters, the rest
    is classified and full of awe and guesses...

    If your roughly 1000 yards away. I won't say any more.
    [IMG]http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/03/18/1226024/068808-***ushima-plan-japan-nuclear-crisis.jpg[/IMG]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-solution.html
    The Japanese PM is too silent on the possibility.

    Quote-
    At Chernobyl, mines had to be dug under the plant to inject a layer of concrete to stop the core melting into the ground. If this happened it would explode when it hit the water table.

    The preferred option for Tokyo Electric Power would be to bring the reactors under control and then dismantle them. This would mean the damaged reactor cores would be put into cold storage and the plant mothballed. This is what happened after the Three Mile Island accident in Pennsylvania in 1979 and it is considered a cheaper and safer option.

    It also means that there would be no need for an exclusion zone around the plant as there is at Chernobyl as the most dangerous radioactive material would be safely removed.

    As Japan entered its second week after the earthquake and tsunami flattened coastal cities and killed thousands of people, the world’s worst nuclear crisis since Chernobyl looked far from over.

    The nuclear disaster has triggered global alarm and reviews of safety at atomic power plants around the world.

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politi...318-1c0fz.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L11Pf...eature=related
    The madness of a lost society. 2011 is'nt even over yet. Lets not forget North Korea
    and that mystery missile launch of the coast of the US last year. From whats
    happening in Libya and Egypt as well. Iran and the IAEA???

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk_u_...eature=related
    If so and why...

    As of 2011- The balance of death on Planet Earth (top 5)

    1. USA 1.950 active. 8.500 total

    2. Russia 1.900 active. 11.000 total.

    3 France 290 active. 300 total.

    4. China 180 active. 240 total.

    5. UK 160 active. 225 total.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDVFz...eature=related
    I was shown this movie after Chernobyl. As to what happens afterwards we probably should never know.
    My heart goes out to the people in Japan. Words mean little when things go wrong.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuI3RmXpjB0
    A German and a Hungarian created both the ultimate weapon and also the ultimate form of power
    so far with modern technology. Boths legacy is felt to this very day.

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    and people want them here id rather choke on smog at least ya have a chance then
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    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03...iima_analysis/
    Your all doomed apparently, hasn't anybody here seen fear and ignorance have it's way with the general population before?

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    link n/w
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    Careful examination of what comes up in my browser say the forum censor software has kicked in and you need to replace the four stars with a well known four letter word finishing with a K.

    EDIT: make that the same word minus the c, and three letters. My mistake for not looking twice.
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    lol yeah got it to work now
    still rather smog till they have cold fussion,
    although i like how they are doing storage of the waste buy making the waste into glass so it cant contaminate the soil or water tables
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