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    Hmm my take on the situ.

    Coal may be bad but uranium is even worse. Coal does employ allot of people
    especially locally. You just cannot stop coal production- even the Greens have
    to realise that but it has to be phased out.

    I hoping that Australia can lure hi-tech developments in alternate energy as our CSIRO is more than up to the challenge and we have more than enough Nobel laureates (and potential ones) ready to take the US DoE's Solar Energy testing to the next level and compete with the EU in the race for the fusion reactor. We could also lure DoE to work here on a Fusion reactor. The benefits of such a deal could pay of heaps in the long term- export contracts to build new fusion (as opposed to fission) is SE Asia would be huge. As soon as carbon credits go online in the EU and later Wall Street we will be hearing about these emerging technologies more and more.

    Clean coal is a possiblity but not a long term solution but Newcastle Uni seems upbeat on the idea. Hearing rumours also suggest a test platform could be more than ready for production in 2-4 years which certainly outshines building a single reactor which will take 10-12 years if we started now.

    Nuclear power sucks allot of water, contamination of waterways by low level fissionable residues from such high energy reactions is something the media has not noticed. Its not as bad as the Simpsons sarcasm but it can lead to heightened levels of thyroid cancer in areas they are used for people especially who are immuno compromised. The chance of a meltdown are low but when it happens- it cannot be stopped. Then the associated mass casualties, mass illness and long term disease issues don't even make good reading. Lucas Heights still won't reveal how many accidents it has had since the 50's as it is a very politically sensitive issue this election.

    ed- I invite you to under the Australian Federal Freedom of Information Act 1982 to request the Lucas Heights accident record. Find out for yourself...
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/a...ns/reports/77/
    For all you sleuths out there...



    Once the French fusion reactor is online we will be left behind- again and wasted billions of dollars on obsolete technology. A single fusion reactor could power near 1/3 of France so that is saying something... Australia wants more than 25+ nuclear reactors and still will not replace coal power only supplement it. The government could also demand more energy efficient appliances which can also have a major effect on power usage- has also been largely ignored.
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    Wow! Is John joining the circus? More backflips.
    Desperation shows.

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=65310
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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...5/s1915485.htm
    Great for families Im sure- as to the rest of the electorate funding...
    Peter Costello is you tax rebate sugar daddy. Its wonderful what
    promises and gimmicks are offered at election time. Shame you cannot
    take the weekend off with your family thanks to the new IR laws- lol

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=261837

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    'Treasurer Peter Costello intends to spend more on defence in his 12th budget, for 2007-08, as Australia undergoes its biggest build-up in defence capability since World War II'

    Why such money spent on defence? Secondly why so much and why is similarities
    being brought with WWII? I can sleep better now. I suppose their has never
    been a better time to be aged between 18 and 35.
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    my question is we ahve the largest deserts of any country and are surrounded by water.
    why not make electric turbins under water in channels etc and use the tide to produce eletricity.
    the only reason we burn coal is to turn the turbins for the generators.
    this whould have to the greenist way to do it.
    if we have nuke plants they should be out in the middle of the simpson desert.
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    Drift I heard some bloke way out west has ideas on doing just that using rocks and water to generate steam- spin turbines out in the desert- a sort of natural nuclear reactor based on solar energy. I'll see if I can dig that article up.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...5/s1915201.htm
    A Budget for the election year. The tax cuts barely keep in check with
    standard of living expenses/ cpi and rising interest rates and rent charges.
    Tax brackets have not changed either- still, apart from the absolute bottom.

    However in other areas it looks like a game of shuffling money around
    in most areas with more of the surplus taking care of things. All these
    tax cuts may trigger inflation. Cannot win can you? I discovered that
    idea 20 years ago. Although with the solar panel rebate which they
    took off in 1999 and put back in I find hilarious. Considering I spent
    allot of dosh on the same setup The major investment of roads I find
    good but long overdue. Still no money put in to fix our nations archaic
    communications network.
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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...5/s1918156.htm
    Well, what do you know. High fiscal spending especially tax cuts
    are more fuel to the inflation fire. That tax cut just got eaten away...

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    Chris Richardson of economic forecaster Access Economics says the Budget means the Reserve Bank will have to rethink its recent pronouncements on inflation being under control.

    Mr Richardson says the Reserve Bank now has to allow for an extra $16 billion of extra spending in an economy already at full stretch.

    "The risk that economists would point to is you throw that much money at an economy already tight as a drum and you do risk an interest rate rise maybe ahead of the election," he said.

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    So Costello's 'fantastic' shower of money could result in another broken RB promise and another interest rate hike? That would kill the Coalition's chances at the election.
    "wake up, Charlie, rise and shine, pour the tea, I'll draw the blinds"

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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...5/s1920242.htm
    The Im more 'conservative than you are contest'. Considering the Liberals
    outspent Labour by more than 2:1 I don't see how he could make such a statement.
    We will see when the reserves decision by August/September growth forecast.

    Considering growth aspects and cpi will lead to rate rises to cut market
    enthusiasm for taking their share of the tax cut maybe the Reserve
    Bank should be ruthless in cutting it back. Inflation is still too high
    at 6.2% after my re-forcast in the last month of 7%. The 3.2% rate
    is a lie and the reserve knows that...

    We'll see how the reserve helps or hinders the incumbents chances
    of the election. If you only rely on the economy for your success just
    like riding the sheep's back in the 60's and now off the coal truck
    is short sighted to say the least. Then following a Argentina sized
    implosion as foreigners pull out funding locally....
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    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21758562-2,00.html
    PRE-ELECTION- spending B L O W O U T

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    LABOR politicians have slammed the Federal Government as "out of touch" on the eve of a $7 million ad campaign they say is a ploy to get the Coalition re-elected.

    Prime Minister John Howard has said the multi-million dollar campaign will explain its controversial industrial relations laws.

    Opposition workforce participation spokeswoman Senator Wong criticised the campaign as solely designed to woo voters

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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...5/s1928425.htm

    will his hands save him?
    The Liberals have shown blood now will Labor sniff it and reply?
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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...5/s1928344.htm
    Planning on overthrowing Howard and Costello as the replacement?

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    Minister for Ageing Christopher Pyne has denied there are rumblings in Coalition ranks about the Prime Minister's leadership.
    Little Lord Fauteroy at it again.

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    Labor has been portraying the Government as rattled, but Mr Pyne insists the Coalition is unified.
    "The Coalition has won four elections, we are a very determined and disciplined team," he said.
    "There is absolutely no panic in the Coalition and no question at all about our unity behind the Prime Minister."

    Rumour from my mates in Canberra is the backbenchers are like scared chickens and some want to
    go independent. Nationals are worried...as they usually are.
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    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21794766-2,00.html
    Looks like some rumours were true...

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    The poll confirms the Prime Minister's claims on Tuesday that the 11-year-old Coalition Government faces "annihilation".

    For added visual effect
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...5/s1934014.htm
    Im sorry to.
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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1939646.htm

    John Howard goes green with carbon credits and energy tariffs on everything
    sending prices up further with price gouging undoubtedly. No mention
    of any viable alternative power sources apart from nuclear. Funny how
    everything happens after 2012

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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1941029.htm

    Climate change targets to cut emissions? Why the need for secrecy
    or really are their any targets for big business or will small business
    and consumers will have to go green majorly to compensate at a cost
    in jobs/ lifestyle and small business go to the wall as big business can
    suck the grid, water (esp in rural areas) and resources as much as they want- still
    at heavily subsidised prices....
    The economy after all is more important than the environment- screw the next
    generation. John Howard I congratulate you on your concise reading of the
    book of Machiavelli- The Prince, even I could not have thought of such ambiguous statements
    on the environment at large...

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1941301.htm
    Shadow Leader for the Environment Garrett's response.
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    Rudd says no to nuclear power.
    It looks like all those areas which are going to have
    reactors stuck there now have a option.

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=270936

    Shame Rudd supports expanded mining and exports
    to China, India and Pakistan?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1947079.htm
    Now, this is ambitious isn't it?

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    "We've got to get serious about this because motorists are suffering in terms of basic affordability and cost pressures on working families.

    "Instead of the ACCC just relying on its informal price monitoring powers, we want to make sure that they use those formal powers, which are currently only available if the Prime Minister - or the Treasurer I should say - direct them.

    "So we intend if we form the next government of Australia [we would] legislation to let the competition watchdog do that off their own bat."



    Will a politician have the courage to take on big oil?
    IMO- unlikely.
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    The Dalai Lama enters Australian politics.
    Will the Pope also lend his advice?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1949448.htm

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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1951188.htm
    A AEC investigation into rorts at Kirribilli.

    5 thousand is awfully cheap for a major shindig. I think it was allot
    more than that.

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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1953466.htm
    Minister Hockey rejects the Labor attack with a predictable attack on the unions.

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    I am white boy you are a black boy so do as your told.

    Their whole culture has gone into decline since settlment and now all of a sudden due
    white man now feels guilty and wants to save the black man or is it just a low
    voter pitch? Considering during Howards leadership over 8 enquiries
    into this problem and nothing done till a few months from election eve.
    These policies are a silent form of apartheid. Weather 6 moths of funding will save
    anyone is laughable when a whole generation has been destroyed.
    The prime minister also mentioned softly he will be retaking all land
    from the people who fought so hard for it. So it seems like a ploy
    to grab land behind the scenes and make Kooris further dependant
    on the system rather than real self-determination.

    Try 20 years before things get better and involve the local
    people in solving their problems. No party is really knowledgeable
    about the situation except for locals and they were not even involved
    in the decision process.

    This heavy handed approach does little when many snort petrol or hard
    drugs when no alcohol is no longer available. Calling all black territory men
    child molesters and using the DOLE as a weapon is bound to backfire
    or could lead to even worse problems of alienation and disconnection.
    Putting kids back in school will not help either when some suffer severe
    trauma or lack educational skills to keep up with others- disadvantaged
    them. Some remote towns are many hours drive away from schools
    and with no distance education is the government really serious or
    cashing in on a national tragedy to futher electoral standing?

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...9-2702,00.html

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/1959706.htm
    the next stolen generation?
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    I am white boy you are a black boy so do as your told.

    Their whole culture has gone into decline since settlment and now all of a sudden due
    white man now feels guilty and wants to save the black man or is it just a low
    voter pitch? Considering during Howards leadership over 8 enquiries
    into this problem and nothing done till a few months from election eve.
    These policies are a silent form of apartheid. Weather 6 moths of funding will save
    anyone is laughable when a whole generation has been destroyed.
    The prime minister also mentioned softly he will be retaking all land
    from the people who fought so hard for it. So it seems like a ploy
    to grab land behind the scenes and make Kooris further dependant
    on the system rather than real self-determination.

    Try 20 years before things get better and involve the local
    people in solving their problems. No party is really knowledgeable
    about the situation except for locals and they were not even involved
    in the decision process.

    This heavy handed approach does little when many snort petrol or hard
    drugs when no alcohol is no longer available. Calling all black territory men
    child molesters and using the DOLE as a weapon is bound to backfire
    or could lead to even worse problems of alienation and disconnection.
    Putting kids back in school will not help either when some suffer severe
    trauma or lack educational skills to keep up with others- disadvantaged
    them. Some remote towns are many hours drive away from schools
    and with no distance education is the government really serious or
    cashing in on a national tragedy to futher electoral standing?

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...9-2702,00.html

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/1959706.htm
    the next stolen generation?
    now this alcohol ban wont fix the problem but it might just help remember in 1967 in South Australia the Labor Govt. removed racially-based alcohol restrictions on Aborigines. Within a year most communities--already dysfunctional--were in chaos.
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    good research cruise- excellent actually. Those communities were already on the
    outside and at the time the White Australia policy still existed as well. So racism,
    segregation, alienation, disconnection and ultimately self destruction take place-
    long before these studies took place. The damage is intergenerational and will take
    many years to heal. It was not too long after that Indigeneous Australians where
    given the right to vote in a referendum as well.

    Many cultures not just Indigenous Australians have met this fate. Look at the suicide rate
    of Native Americans in Northern Canada.

    These issues stem around a lack of community, lack of respect for
    the elders/hierachy and delving into the vices of white mans ways
    as some Kooris have told me. However mismanagement, self interest
    and nepotism have destroyed ATSIC. As a result the government
    now has more power than it deserves.

    If you would like to solve the problem here are some practical points-

    People living in isolated communities need 'real' jobs and education
    and a hope for the future. Local culture and heritage should
    be encouraged and preserved and passed on. A legacy helps
    build a community and keep it alive. That is the difference between
    Detroit and Seattle. One city is in decline the other is relitiverly
    prosperous.

    For those who do not wish to live by the White Mans ways can return
    to the native way of life without support and live by tribal law and
    custom.

    both decisions should be respected.
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    also just recently at the Aboriginal camp at point pearce on the yorke peninsula a virgin Aboriginal teenage girl was raped by an older man, And Alcohol was to blame.
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    Many communities in Arnhem land are alcohol dry however in
    some other towns 'beer showers' are being run by the local
    community in order to get money. As a result the whole
    population gets wasted. Many elders have said alcohol is
    one of the evil white mans demons and should be left alone.
    There are some success stories never mentioned apart from
    some very bad slums outside Alice and Darwin.

    What would the UN WHO think about the Howards
    govt handling up to now? Dismal and too little to late.
    Captain Cook once called them 'noble savages' and envied
    their peaceful, carefree yet disciplined society- compared to his
    Joesph Banks especially so. Now those old ways are gone
    and many have lost their grounding thus these problems
    are not likeley to be fixed unless not just money but
    people actually see how some Australians live. Otherwise
    whats to say their will be a Aboriginal uprising?

    Sending the army in and federal police should be used
    very carefully or maybe this may well blow up in
    Prime Ministers face and turn into a disastrous fiasco
    just like the Cronulla Riots were for the NSW govt.

    Thats not to say excessive underage drinking in the white
    communities is any better and can lead to the same problems.
    The Cronulla riots started from drunken galoots out of the pub
    with the perverted idea of white race and the flag. A flag stands for
    a whole nation- not just a group of people. All soldiers give
    their oath to their country and people- not to a certain group.
    The problem is alcohol is a drug and people who have
    no self control and have 'issues' problems are bound
    to happen- no matter the colour actually.
    Police have long said alcohol is no better and with lax
    Lqiour licensing laws in NSW are half the reason why their
    is a increase in violent crime. The ice problem generally
    is a sideshow.

    Will the govt take on the alcohol industry? It took 40 years
    for the tobacco giants.

    The army should not be used against its own people
    They did that in the Watts riots in the US and
    after Budapest in 1956. It should be a police matter
    not for the army.

    Australia has now lost its innocence to the big world.
    John Howard's refusal to cooperate with the states
    is extremely suspicious to me as Prime Ministers
    should not abuse their executive orders.

    Richard M Nixon rings to mind.
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    Mr Rudd is in Cairns for an Indigenous conference and says while he will continue to provide bipartisan support for the Commonwealth's intervention in Top End Aboriginal communities, he is demanding to see the fine detail.

    II
    Meanwhile, federal Labor denies it has been too quick to offer bipartisan support for the plan.

    More than 50 community, church and Indigenous groups led by the Australian Council of Social Service are meeting in Canberra to discuss their worries about the plan.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...26/1962277.htm

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    The Aboriginal backlash is growing in ferocity against what are increasingly being described as John Howard's shock-and-awe proposals, says the BBC's Nick Bryant in Sydney.

    Although some Aboriginal leaders have welcomed the proposals, many call the prime minister's plan unnecessarily authoritarian and overbearing.

    "What the prime minister and his minister, Mal Brough, are proposing is in the view of the combined Aboriginal organisations in Alice Springs totally unworkable," said their spokesman Pat Turner.

    "We believe that this government is using child sexual abuse as the Trojan horse to resume total control of our lands."


    Some of the fiercest criticism has come from Mutitjulu, a township in the shadow of Uluru, the iconic red rock in central Australia visited by some half a million people each year.
    Mutitjulu leader Vince Forrester said Uluru's traditional owners are considering a civil disobedience campaign that would include a ban on climbing the rock.
    "The tourist industry brings a lot of dollars into the territory and tourists all come to Uluru," he told Australian radio.

    "Obviously, civil disobedience can come in protest form."

    Painful memories of the infamous stolen generation have been revived - dating back to discredited assimilation policies under which generations of Aboriginal children were forcibly sent to live with white Australian families, correspondents say.

    There have been reports from some Aboriginal communities that mothers are fleeing with their children, fearful they are going to be taken into care.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6239788.stm

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    Mr Howard continues to defend his proposals, likening Australia's failure on indigenous child abuse to the Bush administration's botched response to Hurricane Katrina in the US in 2005.

    America is not Australia- vise versa. Katrina is nothing compared to the Aboriginal problem.
    Apart from Katrina affecting allot of poor black folks. Thats the only similarity. Funny how
    NY got fixed so quick. America still has not moved on from the Civil War and some big lessons
    from the 60's and the civil rights movement have largely been ignored.
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    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22002104-2,00.html
    The prohibitionists are back? Didn't the Americans try that in the 20's.
    The CDC doesn't get it still- even the Untouchables failed.
    Bad social policy is good to distract from much bigger issues.
    So if your a white male drink up. For our female audience
    What if your taking the pill and don't want babies?

    Peter Costello certainly wants more babies.

    - insert conspiracy theory.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...02/1967403.htm
    Labor fires a broadside at the coalition.


    Senator Heffernan says she should be married and have kids. Mr Heffenan
    may pass a drug test but would fail with flying colours in a psyc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31FFTx6AKmU&NR=1
    The election is heating up.
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